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01-26-2003, 02:22 PM | #81 | |
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01-26-2003, 02:25 PM | #82 |
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It's been said a million times, but having Aragorn fall off the cliff was superfluous and silly. They might as well have had all the orcs at Helm's Deep perform a big musical number.
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01-26-2003, 02:56 PM | #83 |
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I guess the horse fell off the cliff as well horse or no horse, it is very poor writing compared to the original. As I said before Breathalizer, I have no doubt you think this presentation absolute genius.
As for what is in the book, I don't believe that Tolkien accidently hit all four elements. Gandalf mentions two or three to give the reader enough of a hint as to the symbolism that is at work. Recounting all four in order would be remedial. Last edited by squinteyedsoutherner : 01-26-2003 at 03:09 PM. |
01-26-2003, 03:14 PM | #84 | |
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01-26-2003, 03:27 PM | #85 | |
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now that i think of it, in that scene if you look past aragorn, you see another cliff face. does anyone know what river that even would have been?
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01-26-2003, 03:28 PM | #86 |
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I've never heard of Tolkien using all four elements: The Rings were of Fire, Air, and Water, and I believe in the Silmarillion, one of the Silmarils ends up in Fire, Air, and Water. This leads me to believe, at least, that these are the elements he uses: I don't think I've ever heard of Earth as an element in his works.
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01-26-2003, 03:29 PM | #87 | |
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stupid 90 second rule. man how long IS 90 seconds anyway?
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01-26-2003, 03:30 PM | #88 |
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Blackbreathalizer:
Yes, unconscious people fare quite well in white water after a long fall. Truely a masterpiece! Gwaimir: Good point, I think you have me there, I have never noticed that before I still like the idea of all four, it does still work, but perhaps the fourth is accidental. Last edited by squinteyedsoutherner : 01-26-2003 at 03:37 PM. |
01-26-2003, 03:31 PM | #89 | |
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01-26-2003, 03:38 PM | #90 |
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err.......maybe when aragorn fell another horse saw him fall and went round the cliff down a slope off screen and down to the waters edge to pick him up.
there had to be a bit of drama at that point in the film as it would have been too easy just to slaughter the warg riders.people who havent read the book must have been on the edge of their seats. brilliant.
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01-26-2003, 08:37 PM | #91 |
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Am I the only one who felt Legolas's line 'You're late', was way 'kewl' ? However, this was not Bruce Willis or George Clooney but one of the Eldar race.
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01-26-2003, 09:30 PM | #92 |
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Paul Newman & Robert Redford jump from some huge cliff into a mountain river in the classic film, "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid."
Harrison Ford jumps from the top of a huge dam into a river in the classic film, "The Fugitive." There's only been about a million and one "death defying" acts in the modern cinema yet we've got a few people here trying to make a big deal out of Aragorn's fall off a cliff. As action films go (and in this case a FANTASY movie to boot), this was a death defying scene that the audience could easily swallow (unless they were predisposed to find fault with the movie in the first place.) And the BEST part of it is that because of this scene we were treated to: The spectacular shot of Aragorn on horseback with the mountains in the background as the soundtrack plays Aragorn's Theme. The classic lines said in the reunion of Aragorn and Legolas. The shot of Eowyn's reaction to seeing Aragorn alive...followed by her reaction to seeing Legolas give him back the Evenstar. The dramatic shot of Aragorn opening the doors to Theoden's chamber. Okay, I suppose it's time for another knock out purist response like, "You are an idiot, BB. Aragorn's fall really sucked. I don't think it wuz even in the book." |
01-26-2003, 09:53 PM | #93 |
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If there's been a million and one of 'em, then why did PJ go with something so generic, eh?
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01-26-2003, 09:54 PM | #94 |
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Harrison Ford?
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01-26-2003, 10:01 PM | #96 |
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Not only did I present an irrefutable arguement, I correctly predicted the two follow-up responses to it.
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01-26-2003, 10:15 PM | #97 |
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It's only an irrefutable argument if you can produce empiracle, objective data. All you presented was your subjective claims (and PJ butt kissing.)
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BB: I feel I must point out that he did not "jump" from the cliff. He fell off it. And those lines were NOT classic. I highly doubt an Elf would act like that under the circumstances.
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01-26-2003, 10:32 PM | #99 | |
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Legolas: You're late. (in elvish)
Legolas: You look terrible. Quote:
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01-26-2003, 10:38 PM | #100 |
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I don't claim to be an Elf expert, but acting in such a manner is not something which I would think of the Elves of Middle-Earth doing.
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