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ive never know of hunting with dogs to eradicate foxes in Australia, ive hunted out on a friends farm and thats just been rabbits mainly but if we see foxes we shoot them...
JD i can gaurantee you that shooting a fox is a lot more humane than letting dogs get it, just think would you prefer me to shoot you or let the dogs get you... i would not agree with any hunting for fun, whether it is with gun or dogs, i enjoy going shooting (havent done it for awhile though) but i wouldnt go out and hunt rabbits if they werent pests... i dont really understand you bringing up rat poison, as far as i know people dont get kicks out of poisoning rats ![]()
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NJ doesn't have a bear problem in all areas of the state - but the northwestern section does. We had our first bear hunt a couple of weeks ago for a 6 day period and their goal was to kill 500 bears. The didn't even get half that number though. Funny thing is - even though bears are repeatedly attacking dogs and getting into people's yards - there were demonstrations against the bear hunt.
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hey im only against some hunting when there is no reason other than for someones enjoyment, and if there is a better method to kill with... i have no objections to killing foxes if they are a problem, i have, but i think that a gun is a better option than dogs.
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This is an interesting topic. I don't have very strong opinions about it, but I do have a problem with hunting animals if it is done solely for the pleasure and amusement of the hunters, as seems to be the case with fox hunting in England. Sorry Radagast.
In Norway we do not usually hunt foxes (Falagar they are present, I've seen a red fox more than once ![]()
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Okay, just thought I'd mention this: I used to go hound racing with my oma and opa when I was younger, and what I noticed was that when the dogs finally caught their "prey"*, they generally used to grab and shake it, rather than administering a quick nip. Nor was it a single dog 'attacking' the prey. I have also witnessed my parents dog attacking and killing a kitten (stupid frickin' dog
![]() *prey being some kind of fluffy fur 'animal' on a motorised pully that they had to chase around on a track.
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For example, people can keep sled-hounds but such races are banned here.
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fox hunting
Its wrong to hunt foxes in my opinion.
But not only is it wrong, it is also stupid and immature. foxes are becoming extinct, and we should do everything in our power to prevent it. hunting for sport is wrong, thats my opinion, and I'm sticking to it. But as Jonathan said earlier, when you see pics of it(hunting foxes) they only will show the worst ones(and the foxes in the pics looked like they'd been dead for awhile). I'm sure the foxhunters arent cruel, just foolish. My final words here. ![]()
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I am shocked and sad that this blood sport is taking place here. Although, it seems that the practice of fox hunting here is not the same as in England. The hunters rarely catch their quarry and the goal is not to kill it. Though, I still have my own doubts about what is reported. ![]() Here in Texas, it's game hunting that is popular. People use the meat to stock their freezers, using them for meals. One organization of hunters goes out once a year to hunt deer for the local shelters to feed the poor. They usually keep the pelts and antlers too, but usually only as a decorative thing. It's not like the Native Americans that used every part for something practical in their lives. I have been hunting once... for duck and goose. I had trained a former bf's chocolate lab for hunting and I wanted to see him in action. (He was the perfect hunting dog, btw.) I didn't shoot anything, but my former bf did... he got a nice goose, which we prepared and cooked. |
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![]() Seriously- it's actually very hard to get the clean break required for a quick, painless kill. And a partial severing of the spinal cord is excruciating (at least as I understand it from people who've had neck injuries of that sort) Honestly, though. At least in my neck of the woods we eat what we kill, or at least /somebody/ does. There are certainly a lot of people that kill for sport, but they have the decency to make sure the meat gets used. Bah. I think it's pathetic. They run around jabbering about how much fun it is to kill something, when they don't even have the guts to do it themselves. I say we take the whole lot of them and stick them in a gladitorial arena. Let them have their fun killing each other off.
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