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when annael is speaking to tuor about turgon in UT, he says that Turgon lives yet, and he is the most feared of morgoth's enemies, so there!!
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Morgoth should fear Luthien! He got OWNED.
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Maedhros gave up the succession, so it passed to Fingolfin's and his sons. Fingon, in this version, was not Gil-Galad's father. Idril was Turgon's daughter, so she wouldn't count. ![]() The Finarfinions were all dead. ![]() ![]() ![]() I think.
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I believe you are exactly right Elemmire. After Gil-galad, the line was dead, so the High Kingship was ended.
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yes, but elrond is descended from turgon, so i would have thought he would be high king after the death of ereinion gil-galad?
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And he would also have inherited through a female line, being the grandson of Turgon's daughter, Idril. Stupid sexist Elves...
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i bet that was Fëanor's fault too, he gets all he can out of nerdanel, then deserts her, i bet he was just a male chauvinist pig! ![]() |
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Probably a chance for a good wedding Ring!
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Feanor did not leave Nerdanel. Nerdanel left him. After marrying him and giving him 7 little Feanors, I would have left him too.
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i was speaking spiritually, his mind was already concentrated on other things, so he deserted her in a way
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Yeah... Maglor... mmm...
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Emmy and I are trying to convert each other...
I wonder who will win... ![]() So far she's got a serious advantage, since I already like both the eldest sons of Fëanor... and she's got a thing against blondes! ![]() ![]()
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