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-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- My good creationist friends, I have decided that our good evolutionists friends' argument needs to be summed up. "Because I cannot see God, I cannot possible believe in him, and I am going to use very, very incomplete evidence to prove that I can exist with out him." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Lord Kelvin, (1824-1907) Established Thermodynamics and the scale of absolute temperatures "In regard to the origin of life and science it all positively affirms a creative power at work." -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- In reagard to Dino's on the Ark: Quote:
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Regarding those measurements of the ark, they are not taken directly from the bible, they have been derived from information in Genesis, so again, we are dependent on one man's interpretation of size.... (fallacy of man? anyone?)
Here is a site that details why the ark story could not have happened, and how the species have not all originated from one place. Noah's Ark
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After taking some advice from a fellow Christian mooter, I am going to come up for air and do some talking to God about this topic. I am not planning on posting here for an undifinite period of time. I will be praying for you all. Thanks.
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PS Did you run out of answers? ![]()
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I know I was going to stop, but BoP, I never run out of answers! I don't stop an argument untill the other person kills me... Really, ask ANY of my teachers... (My science teacher and I are still arguing about 1 question from a test 2 months ago...)
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Elven Warrior
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emplynx: running out of answers is totally allowed.
It's when one runs out of questions that things get scary. That's the inner scientist talking. ![]() Of course, if it makes you feel better to pray, go ahead! Can't hurt. ![]() But I'd just like to point out that in future, you might want to refrain from mentioning it in this context. When one suggests that one is going to "pray for the infidel", as it were (and this really is the context you were using, whether you can really see that or not) it tends to upset the said "infidels". They tend to get testy if they feel they are being patronized or their point of view is being trivialized in such a manner. ![]() |
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This is a story, about silly man.... (to the tune of Brady Bunch).
"Once upon a time, there was this stupid man who lived in Turkey. One day, a voice boomed down at him: "Stupid man, I am going to cause a flood, such as you've never seen before." "Oh no! What shall I do?" Said stupid man. "You shall build a holy device that shall protect you and all your family, and all of the cute fuzzy animals in my kingdom." "Okay," said stupid man, "but why are you killing all of the other animals, and stinky stupid men?" "Because they are stupid and stinky, and they keep trying to hump my leg. It's most distracting, when you are trying to create a cool world for all the boys and girls, and one of your creations keeps humping your leg." "Oh." said stupid man. "Well, what will I need for this holy device?" "Thou shalt cut down the entire Amazon forrest for this holiest of Arks, and ruin all the ecosystems, and habitats of all those silly rainforest creatures." said the holiest of Gods. "Oh, and what shall I use to stick it all together, since I don't have any iron nails?" "Use some of your spit you silly man." "Okay!". So, stupid man went and carried out Gods word, and mowed down the entire Amazon forest, to build the most holiest of arks. As for all the mass extinctions he caused, oh well, that is another story. Next, he tried to capture all of the animals in the most holiest of kingdoms. After a hundred years of wild goose chases, he decried to God: "They are not easy to catch! How am I supposed to get everything into this ark?" "Oh stupid man! Just catch two of everything! That should be enough." So silly man ran around and around in circles, and tried to catch two of everything. Two tigers. Two hornets. Two grizzly bears. Two Tyrannosaurus Rex'. Two Lions. Two skunks. Two wolves. Two tasmanian devils. Two unicorns. Two velociraptors. And so forth. By the end of another hundred years, silly man was now a deeply scarred, poor misbegotten fool. "Oh, God. Is there any easier way to catch these horrid creatures?" "Stop complaining, fool, and gather some more insects. Here is a jar (with a perforated lid so they don't suffocate.)" Stupid man ran hither, and thither, trying to catch alll of the insects, and all of the mammals, and all of the birds, and so on, and so forth. Eventually, Stupid man, had successfully captured two of every single creature in Gods Kingdom (don't ask how he trapped the T-Rex!). Luckily, God had granted him some extra time, so by the time he was 600 the ark was complete. So he put all of his animals in to his big wooden ark, glued with spit. And God caused 40 days, and 40 nights worth of rain... ... In the meantime, because silly man had forgotten to build cages, the lions ate the unicorn, the Moa ate the rare giant worm, the army ants bit everyone, and the Giant Sloth fell overboard. And then, to the Silly Stupid Man's horror, the ark slowly started leaking, from all the wooden spit seams, and sinking from all the weight. Finally after 40 days of rain, and 40 nights of rain, God caused a rainbow to come forth, and celebrate the survival of all his cute fuzzy creatures, and Stupid man and his family, in the ark. Only, to Gods horror, there was no ark to be found. The moral of the story? Don't create silly stupid men to do your bidding, if you can do it yourself." Hehe. I kill me. ![]() ![]() ![]()
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emplynx, I have respect for you for standing up for your beliefs, but when it comes to the point you choose to judge and not to understand why others are the way they are, I begin to feel sorry for you. Not to mention the insult you will cause many non-believers. Nibs, Arathorn, and Starr Polish are the only Christians I can name that handled this topic with great care on not judging between wrong or right on others. Maybe so, even at times, Wayfarer did the same as them. But that was a real low you just hit there, my friend. A real low. I may have called religion a fairy tale, but not once did I say it was wrong. Last edited by Rána Eressëa : 04-03-2002 at 02:01 AM. |
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I agree with RE. How would you like it if we said we all were going to work on converting you to not believe? I Don't care if you believe or not. Don't think that you're beliefs are the right ones - it's a bit egotistical. I've only stated why I don't believe - and you have to accept it. Why do i need to be saved? What aboiut us saving you from brainwashed views? Would that make you mad if we said that? Because that's what you're doing to us.
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Besides this, does anyone know how the kiwi got to New Zealand after the flood? And what about all other flightless birds that couldn't swim - how did they get to far-away islands? |
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Try "Invertebrate Fossils" Moore, Lalicker, Fischer and "Dynamic Stratigraphy: An Introduction to Sedimentation and Stratigraphy" Matthews It's like chalk on a blackboard to read articles like that one. Chalk, by the way, is fossilized pelagic (swimming) calcite based plankton. It's deposited in the middle of the ocean, very slowly, far from any sedimentary sources. Think white cliffs of dover. loooooooong time to deposit those babies.
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Has anyone seen the kangaroos? ... and that platypus thing... do we need two or not? We forgot to get a date for the Loch Ness monster! ![]() ![]() ![]()
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Perhaps the context of emplynx's comment made it come off as condescending. I know that that is not what he meant. However, last month I was branded as a heretic by a friend, and when he told me he was praying for me, I reacted the same way you folks have.
ps. sarcastic comments go a long way toward hurt. Whether or not you believe in the bible, keep 1 Corinthians 13 in mind when posting, especially on a thread like this that involves personal beliefs. It starts like this: If I speak in tongues of men and of angels but have not love, I am only a resounding gong, or a clanging cymbal. If I have the gift of prophecy, and can fathom all wisdom and all knowledge, and if I have faith that can move mountains, but have not love, I am nothing. ![]() *ahem* *steps down off of soapbox* I've had my say. Continue your Noah bashing party if you like...
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*pulls out baseball bat...*
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