09-17-2007, 01:19 AM | #41 | |
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Ahh, we have cross-posted, Olmer...
What say you about this quote? Was Aragorn lying? Quote:
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09-17-2007, 02:03 AM | #42 |
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True, it would have been dangerous for Butterbur to wander the wilds with a broken sword. But Aragorn isn't Butterbur.
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09-17-2007, 09:39 AM | #43 |
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Aha, Lady of the Ulairi , but we have almost the same answer.
The dark things which are freezing people heart could only be the wraith (you know your people's best quality ). I think, during Angmar's regime the daggers, which were turning an opposition into allies, have been pretty much in use. So the Arnoreans from King's dinasty worked out protection and remedies against the "wrathness" in all its aspects. And who, if not Aragorn, would know better that at the chance meeting the regular swords are a small comfort. I guess, only that could excuse the abcense of the Guardian Aragorn's sword.
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Here, let us look at Aragorn's activities in summer 3018:
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February 1 - Aragorn captures Gollum in Dead Marches (see UT) March 21 - He brings Gollum to Mirkwood (UT). There he also meets Gandalf and learns that Sauron started looking for his Ring and learned about "Shire" and "Baggins". April 12 Gandalf comes to Hobbiton (Tale of Years), Aragorn returns west with him, but then goes to Sarn Ford (see the quote above) May 1 Aragorn meets Gandalf at Sarn Ford May-August(?) Aragorn goes on a "journey of his own" - most likely goes to visit Arwen in Rivendell. September - Aragorn returns to Bree, swordless (but with Narsil), About Sept 25 - he first hears news of the Black Riders - from Gildor. Gandalf is missing. So, despite the disquiting info learned from Gollum, Aragorn was happily loosing his time all the summer. About this time he substituted his functional sword by a piece of historical junk - but the junk proving him the Rightful King. Why??? Why didn't they grab Frodo right there and then - in April - to lead him to Rivendell safely and at leasure? |
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09-18-2007, 02:54 PM | #46 | |
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He brought the news to Elrond of Frodo's exact arriving with the Ring to Rivendell, and the invitation to the interested parties had been sent beforehead. This why (what a surprise!!) everybody came to Imladris at the same time but under a different pretense. So, the arrival of the rival has been expected.
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Currently in *re-read mode* - I just found the reference Michael Martinez must have bee referring to when speculating that Aragorn took an opportunity to go back to Rivendell for the shards:
In "Strider" (Ch. 10 of Book I), while they're discussing Gandalf's possible whereabouts: Quote:
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09-25-2007, 11:24 AM | #48 | |
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He did not trust Saruman enough to tell him about a suspicious "unwholesome" ring, yet he goes to him to discuss the protection of the Ring of Power from Nazgul.
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09-25-2007, 10:00 PM | #49 |
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I'm not sure what your day job is, Olmert, nor would I ask here (so uncool ) but in mine, with my Office Director (who can be analogized to the Head of Gandalf's Order), I don't knock on his door with suspicions, I save my visits (and my "currency" with him) for more concrete, certain interruptions. Gandalf's actions - and inaction - with Saruman that seem to approximate a mental condition with you appear, to me, to be standard operating procedure vis-a-vis a superior.
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