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12-05-2003, 06:27 PM | #21 | |
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12-05-2003, 06:31 PM | #22 | |
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That still isn't a threat, that's your opinion on the outcome of the movies... The movies have still brought more fans to Tolkien than if there was not a movie...
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen Last edited by Dúnedain : 12-05-2003 at 06:32 PM. |
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12-05-2003, 06:35 PM | #23 | ||
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12-05-2003, 06:38 PM | #24 | |
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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12-05-2003, 06:41 PM | #25 | |
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12-05-2003, 06:45 PM | #26 | |
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12-05-2003, 06:48 PM | #27 | |
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SGh has gotten a friend into reading the books - before she loved the movies. Now that she is reading the books - she is quickly becoming a movie hater. But that is only ONE person - in all the people I have talked to.
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12-05-2003, 06:56 PM | #28 | |
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The movies are creating fans that want to go to New Zealand. Who want to see Jackson, to see Orland Bloom. I have no desire to go to New Zealand because of Lord of the Rings. The only reason I would like to see New Zealand is because it seem like a beautiful country. I will go to Oxford anf England to see the REAL Lord of the Rings location though. I want to see Tolkien's grave.
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12-05-2003, 07:04 PM | #29 | |
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12-05-2003, 07:18 PM | #30 | |
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Come back! Come back! To Mordor we will take you! "The only thing better than a great plan is implementing a great plan" - JerseyDevil "If everyone agreed with me all the time, everything would be just fine"- JerseyDevil AboutNewJersey.com New Jersey MessageBoard Another Tolkien Forum Memorial to the Twin Towers New Jersey Map Fellowship of the Messageboard Legend of the Jersey Devil Support New Jersey's Liberty Tower Peacefire.org AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide |
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12-05-2003, 08:06 PM | #31 |
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Amazingly diverted off-topic. Are we surprised? I say ban 'em. If they can't agree to simple ground rules of common courtesy, they shouldn't be here. There is no acceptable reason for assininity in the Moot.
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12-05-2003, 08:08 PM | #32 |
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Wow.
The mere fact that there are actual Tolkien fans who actually feel the novels are threatened by the appearance of the new films speaks volumes...and explains a lot. |
12-05-2003, 08:12 PM | #33 | |
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As for common curtesy - I was wondering if your definition is the way you acted about my avatar.
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12-05-2003, 08:16 PM | #34 | ||||
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Anyway... I think your bull [poopie] "peace offering" is just another way to stick it to the people who truely love Tolkien's work. How about this... you go and get LotR... read all three (FotR, TTT, and RotK) ... then we'll talk. Last edited by Ruinel : 12-05-2003 at 08:27 PM. |
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12-05-2003, 08:24 PM | #35 |
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Ruinel, I'm sure you mean all six...
In any case, I am using this moment to officially resign from all book/movie debates. I'm sick of how poisoned it's all gotten. You'll find me down in GM arguing about gay marraige. Good-bye.
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12-05-2003, 08:30 PM | #36 | |
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We'll miss you Elf Girl, but I'm glad you are putting your efforts into something more constructive than going back and forth with these... misguided individuals. |
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12-05-2003, 08:36 PM | #37 | |
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One person I have spoken to that (1) did not read the books (2) saw FOTR in theatre. He could not exactly follw the movie. He thought the movie was too rushed and did not explain everything in a proper fashion. He thought the movie was ok, but a bit long. I consider him a bright guy, so when he says this, it makes me think of the movie as someone who is not familiar with Tolkien. Since I am familiar with JRRT LOTR, it is easy for my mind to fillin the gaps that may be present in the PJ&CO LOTR. I did the same with Bakshi's version. (The Tolkien Sarcasm page does an excellent job of showing some of the short comings of Bakshi's film) He may never read JRRT LOTR or see the other 2 films that PJ produced. Another two friends of mine think that the Pippen & Merry Firework scene actually occured in the book. (I stopped disagreeing with them since there was no point in disagreeing with over a book/movie.) Falagar I am glad that you have seen such response to the films. JD, I actually have an interest to go NZ, Australia and the UK as well as other areas of the world. (Whether I go is another matter. ) I will admit that before the films I did not think of NZ as a place to visit. (the movie did show some fantastic sceneary though) I still would see Australia before NZ. BB, I think a truce could be worked out, but more details will need to be worked out. (1. ) sounds good on surface, but I would change it to: People should be respectful of others. If they make statements, they should back up their statements with proofs and/or evidence that shows why they think the way they do. This may still require sum finetuning and several amendments. After all the jerseydevil is in the details. (2.) time will tell (3.) yes this is supposed to be fun. Purposely making statements and/or topics that are sure to generate a reaction, on an almost continous basis is not my idea of fun, although it would appear to be for other people. If one is going to make outrageous claims/statements they should be able to back their claims/statements with facts. If facts are not available then clearly indicate that their claims/statements are their opinions.
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Sincerely, Anthony 'Many are my names in many countries,' he said. 'Mithrandir among the Elves, Tharkûn to the Drarves; Olórin I was in my youth in the West that is forgotten, in the South Incánus, in the North Gandalf; to the East I go not.' Faramir What nobler employment, or more valuable to the state, than that of the man who instructs the rising generation? Cicero (106BC-43BC) Last edited by mithrand1r : 12-05-2003 at 08:42 PM. |
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12-05-2003, 09:21 PM | #38 | |
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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12-05-2003, 09:23 PM | #39 | |
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'Et Eärello Endorenna utúlien. Sinome maruvan ar Hildinyar tenn' Ambar-metta!' - And those were the words that Elendil spoke when he came up out of the Sea on the wings of the wind: 'Out of the Great Sea to Middle-earth I am come. In this place will I abide, and my heirs, unto the ending of the world.' 'Then Tuor arrayed himself in the hauberk, and set the helm upon his head, and he girt himself with the sword; black were sheath and belt with clasps of silver. Thus armed he went forth from Turgon's hall, and stood upon the high terraces of Taras in the red light of the sun. None were there to see him, as he gazed westward, gleaming in silver and gold, and he knew not that in that hour he appeared as one of the Mighty of the West, and fit to be father of the kings of the Kings of Men beyond the Sea, as it was indeed his doom to be; but in the taking of those arms a change came upon Tuor son of Huor, and his heart grew great within him. And as he stepped down from the doors the swans did him reverence, and plucking each a great feather from their wings they proffered them to him, laying their long necks upon the stone before his feet; and he took the seven feathers and set them in the crest of his helm, and straightway the swans arose and flew north in the sunset, and Tuor saw them no more.' -Of Tuor and his Coming to Gondolin "Oh. Forgive me, fairest of all males of Entmoot...Back down, all ye other wannabe fairest males! Dunedain is the fairest!" --Linaewen |
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12-05-2003, 09:29 PM | #40 | |
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I also have noticed that a thread will proceed on a given topic, then someone will make a statement that is not related to the topic at hand. This will usually lead toward the path of 1=>reply 2=>counter-reply 3=>repeat steps 1&2 Perhaps something should be added in that "peace" offereing about not inserting off topic comments in a thread. or maybe having all replys ot off topic comments taken to a new thread.
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Sincerely, Anthony 'Many are my names in many countries,' he said. 'Mithrandir among the Elves, Tharkûn to the Drarves; Olórin I was in my youth in the West that is forgotten, in the South Incánus, in the North Gandalf; to the East I go not.' Faramir What nobler employment, or more valuable to the state, than that of the man who instructs the rising generation? Cicero (106BC-43BC) |
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