Ron+Hermionie= Exaggerated? - Page 2

Lady_of_the_Golden_Wood · 03-23-2003, 03:02 PM

Aren't all movie people cheapskates? Well, except P.J.

Elf Girl · 03-23-2003, 04:31 PM

I agree about Americans. They seem to like not to have to think about a book/movie.

I am an American, so no hard feelings over this post.

Lief Erikson · 03-24-2003, 03:08 AM

\America is made up of all different sorts of people from all sorts of different nationalities and religions. The classic less intelligent American stereotype is very ridiculous, in view of this(Not that I think that's what you're saying, Elf Girl).

I'm an American and I like depth and subtlety in movies or books, though not necessarily in all of them.

Eowyn, Lady of Rohan · 04-06-2003, 01:37 PM

I don't even remember where Rowling says anything about Hermione and Ron being in love. *shrug* oh heck.

SamwiseGamgeeOTS · 04-24-2003, 10:12 AM

she does it's subtly....like her and ron talk over the summer all the time. Hermione in her letters to Harry will be like, " Ron said, blah blah blah..." crap like that. you have to remember their afe to. even in book 3 Harry is only 13. So they're not realy in love, they're "in like" as I like to call it. But, it will be blown way outta proportion, kinda like Aragorn and Arwen.....ya know?

Fili · 04-29-2003, 09:59 PM

Yah....

It bugs me how people are always changing the movie to "Suit different audiences". (If you are confuesd, dont ask)

Eowyn, Lady of Rohan · 05-21-2003, 06:03 PM

I see.

The Ben · 05-28-2003, 07:43 PM

That is up to them.

Elf Girl · 05-31-2003, 01:47 PM

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Originally posted by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan
I don't even remember where Rowling says anything about Hermione and Ron being in love. *shrug* oh heck.

Well that fight they had after the Yule Ball in book 4 was pretty obvious, in my opinion.

Rána Eressëa · 07-05-2003, 10:57 AM

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Originally posted by b4ugo
Actually, I have to agree with Sailor Saiya-Elf, lots of things are Hollywood-ized to make more sense for you Americans, no offense intended, you are a whole different audience. One example is how they changed "Philosopher's Stone" to "Sorceror's Stone" due to the fact that most American's didn't know what a philosopher actually was.

*cough* Hem, hem. The reason it was changed was because all throughout the book the stone is never once referred to as the Philosopher's Stone, only as the Sorceror's Stone. So it seemed out of place to have the title contradict what it was called in the books, therefore the American press wanted to change the name of the first book to coincide with what the stone was called in the book.

sun-star · 07-05-2003, 01:38 PM

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Originally posted by Rána Eressëa
*cough* Hem, hem. The reason it was changed was because all throughout the book the stone is never once referred to as the Philosopher's Stone, only as the Sorceror's Stone. So it seemed out of place to have the title contradict what it was called in the books, therefore the American press wanted to change the name of the first book to coincide with what the stone was called in the book.

Well, I don't know the reason why the title was changed, but that can't be it. The stone is called "the Philosopher's Stone" all the way through the original UK edition. When they changed the title to "Sorceror's" in the US version, they must have changed all the references in the text as well to be consistent.

Rána Eressëa · 07-05-2003, 01:44 PM

All right then. I guess they must have done that indeed. Well, since it is a book about magic and wizards and witches, wouldn't Sorcerer's Stone be a slight tad more appropriate than Philosopher's Stone in the end? I don't see why it poses as much of a problem. *shrugs*

Elf Girl · 07-12-2003, 04:56 PM

*splutter* It's called the 'Philosopher's Stone' because the Philosopher's stone is actually something that exists in mythology, while the Sorceror's Stone is just random idiocy.

You do know what a philosopher's stone is, don't you? *pleading look*

It's a mythical object with the power to turn lead into gold. See?

And yes, in the british edition it is all the way through called the Philosopher's Stone. Honestly. You should at least read it before citing inconsistancies.

Sheeana · 07-12-2003, 05:55 PM

It was also supposedly used for the creation of the humunculus (sp?) - the creation of immortality. And since Voldemort was after it for that very reason, I'd say "philosophers stone" was a very apt description. Besides, the act of alchemy is NOT magical, it's scientific in nature, and philosophy was the very early branch of science. 'Nuff said? Okay. Moving on.

Elf Girl · 07-12-2003, 09:38 PM

Thank you. *steam gradually stops pouring from ears*

Rána Eressëa · 07-13-2003, 11:16 AM

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Originally posted by Elf Girl
*splutter* It's called the 'Philosopher's Stone' because the Philosopher's stone is actually something that exists in mythology, while the Sorceror's Stone is just random idiocy.

You do know what a philosopher's stone is, don't you? *pleading look*

It's a mythical object with the power to turn lead into gold. See?

And yes, in the british edition it is all the way through called the Philosopher's Stone. Honestly. You should at least read it before citing inconsistancies.

I know that a certain real Nicolas Flamel claimed to find a philosopher's stone in the 14th or 15th century. Other than that, I have only heard of an object capable of turning lead to gold (with none of that "elixir of life" as an addition), but it's name fails me.

I would not consider it a myth; the philospher's stone is more of an ancient prank done by many alchemists.

I couldn't exactly get a hold of any British edition, so do forgive me for that note. The "inconsistancy" thing is true for the American version, but alas - I have never been able to find a British version (save for online, but you see how I couldn't read that without buying).

Elf Girl · 07-13-2003, 11:26 AM

I said 'myth' merely because it doesn't really exist.

http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...er%27s%20stone

O, and it says, 'also called "elixir"'. Look up 'elixir', and you get: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=elixir

03-23-2003, 03:02 PM	#21
Lady_of_the_Golden_Wood The Precious Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Glasgow Posts: 204	Aren't all movie people cheapskates? Well, except P.J. __________________ was holding on hanging by a thread clinging to three words you said but words are meaningless in your absence.

03-23-2003, 04:31 PM	#22
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	I agree about Americans. They seem to like not to have to think about a book/movie. I am an American, so no hard feelings over this post. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

04-06-2003, 01:37 PM	#24
Eowyn, Lady of Rohan The Evil One Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: here, on the moot Posts: 804	I don't even remember where Rowling says anything about Hermione and Ron being in love. shrug oh heck. __________________ GO RED SOX Evanescence, Green Day, Weezer, the Click Five, Train...The best song artists and singers ever! You laugh cuz i'm different, i laugh cuz ur all the same!!!

04-24-2003, 10:12 AM	#25
SamwiseGamgeeOTS Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: A quaint little hole which last time I checked was somewhere near Ohio, Middle-Earth. Posts: 165	she does it's subtly....like her and ron talk over the summer all the time. Hermione in her letters to Harry will be like, " Ron said, blah blah blah..." crap like that. you have to remember their afe to. even in book 3 Harry is only 13. So they're not realy in love, they're "in like" as I like to call it. But, it will be blown way outta proportion, kinda like Aragorn and Arwen.....ya know? __________________ "...Eragon recoiled in shock. Standing in front of him, licking off the membrane that encased it, was a dragon."

04-29-2003, 09:59 PM	#26
Fili Enting Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Hiding in my head... Posts: 57	Yah.... It bugs me how people are always changing the movie to "Suit different audiences". (If you are confuesd, dont ask) __________________ When the Dark comes rising; Six shall turn it back; Three from the circle; Three from the track; Wood, bronze, iron; Fire, water stone; Five shall return and one will go alone. Iron for the birthday, bronze carried long; Wood from the burning, stone out of song; Fire from the candle ring, water out of thaw; Six signs the Circle and the grail gone before. Fire on the mountian shall find the Harp of Gold; Played to wake the Sleepers, oldest of the Old; Power of the green witch, lost beneath the sea; All shall find the light at last, silver on the tree.

03-24-2003, 03:08 AM	#23
Lief Erikson Elf Lord Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: Fountain Valley, CA Posts: 6,343	\America is made up of all different sorts of people from all sorts of different nationalities and religions. The classic less intelligent American stereotype is very ridiculous, in view of this(Not that I think that's what you're saying, Elf Girl). I'm an American and I like depth and subtlety in movies or books, though not necessarily in all of them.

05-21-2003, 06:03 PM	#27
Eowyn, Lady of Rohan The Evil One Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: here, on the moot Posts: 804	I see. __________________ GO RED SOX Evanescence, Green Day, Weezer, the Click Five, Train...The best song artists and singers ever! You laugh cuz i'm different, i laugh cuz ur all the same!!!

05-28-2003, 07:43 PM	#28
The Ben Really Smelly Orc Join Date: May 2003 Location: i'm not going to tell you. You might locate me. Posts: 325	That is up to them. __________________ The Ben is Stronger Than the Sword

07-05-2003, 01:44 PM	#32
Rána Eressëa The Rogue Elf Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 1,722	All right then. I guess they must have done that indeed. Well, since it is a book about magic and wizards and witches, wouldn't Sorcerer's Stone be a slight tad more appropriate than Philosopher's Stone in the end? I don't see why it poses as much of a problem. shrugs Last edited by Rána Eressëa : 07-05-2003 at 01:48 PM.

07-12-2003, 04:56 PM	#33
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	splutter It's called the 'Philosopher's Stone' because the Philosopher's stone is actually something that exists in mythology, while the Sorceror's Stone is just random idiocy. You do know what a philosopher's stone is, don't you? pleading look It's a mythical object with the power to turn lead into gold. See? And yes, in the british edition it is all the way through called the Philosopher's Stone. Honestly. You should at least read it before citing inconsistancies. __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

07-12-2003, 05:55 PM	#34
Sheeana Lord of the Pants Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 1,382	It was also supposedly used for the creation of the humunculus (sp?) - the creation of immortality. And since Voldemort was after it for that very reason, I'd say "philosophers stone" was a very apt description. Besides, the act of alchemy is NOT magical, it's scientific in nature, and philosophy was the very early branch of science. 'Nuff said? Okay. Moving on.

07-12-2003, 09:38 PM	#35
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	Thank you. steam gradually stops pouring from ears __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium...

07-13-2003, 11:26 AM	#37
Elf Girl Lurker Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Lothlórien Posts: 3,419	I said 'myth' merely because it doesn't really exist. http://dictionary.reference.com/sear...er%27s%20stone O, and it says, 'also called "elixir"'. Look up 'elixir', and you get: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=elixir __________________ There's antimony, arsenic, aluminum, selenium... Last edited by Elf Girl : 07-13-2003 at 11:28 AM.

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