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I believe that Galadriel was really asking "Why isn't Amarie here? Why aren't the two of you married?" rather than the interpretation that has been given here. --Imladrien
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Finrod loved Amarie, so the Silmarillion says. But it doesn't say that she loved him back. It only says that "she went not with him into exile." It doesn't say she wasn't permitted to go, just that she didn't go. I think that if she truely loved Finrod, she would have gone with him anywhere, even into exile, no matter what.
Oh, I know I would have followed Finrod anywhere, in a pinch! Can anyone give me some suggestions. I would like to start buying the HoME books, but I'm not sure what is in each one or which I should buy first. Should I buy them and read them in order? Are there any that you feel are more valuable to the history than others? Are there any which contain the best of stories? |
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I also do not believe that Gildor Inglorion "of the House of Finrod" is Finrod's son (from FotR). Otherwise he would have said... "son of Finrod" or "son of (whomever), son of Finrod". I think he was either in a position in the house of Finrod of confidence, or he offered his service to the House of Finrod. But I don't believe him to be the son or grandson of Finrod.
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I like Imladrien's explanation.
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It could be that Finrod's remarks arose unbidden-elvish foresight, not an ordinary thought at all. That would explain the dissonance.
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I bet most here would reccomend HoME 10, Morgoth's Ring. So do I
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Yeah, it depends on where your interests lie in the mytho. The HoMe do not have to be read in order, because they are not like a story. The first books I bought were the last three volumes: Morgoth's Ring (10) The War of the Jewels (11) and: The Peoples of Middle-earth (12) These were of the greatest interest to me because 10 and 11 are the Later Quenta Silmarillion. I own none of the books related to LotRs. I should get them though, just so I can keep up the discussion with those that do have them.
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