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Good point, but I guess the dragon would have gone to another place and disturbed the people there, although there would have been not that much gold and jewellery.
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02-05-2003, 07:28 AM | #23 |
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What can I say against you, Sister Golden Hair. Once more we don't share an opinion.
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*chuckling* I dub thee Lalaith the unphasable. Yer too much.
But getting back to the topic: Am I the only one that saw the long tortured story of Turin to be simply classic Shakespearian tragedy at its fullest? In fact theres a number of Shakespeare like tragedies in the book but this one has got to take the cake for the most gut wrenching. Its almost Hamlet like.
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Actually its more Othello like now that I think about it.
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02-06-2003, 05:17 AM | #27 |
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I always thought that there are also many stories about the forbidden love between sister and brother but actually can't name a story by now.
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I just read that chapter and it was great. Turin is my favourite men in Silmarillion. He is a great worrier but unlucky. I don’t thing anyone could easily kill him in one on one combat. Killing himself wasn’t a good idea but can u blame him? He slew beleg which I though was a great elf, sadly died like that. The chapter is full of great stuff.
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or perhaps Turin had had one too many curses upon him?
You know, marrying your sister, living among Elves, seeing dragons, killing people is not what I call normal behaviour for a man in his age. Now, on my age on the other hand...
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Haven't we discussed this before - "Laws and customs"
Now back to Túrin. What a man he would have been, had not the curse been upon him.
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