05-07-2002, 03:01 PM | #21 |
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ahhh.... Glorfindel!!! Legolas (I think).
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About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. |
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05-07-2002, 04:35 PM | #23 | |
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glorfindel was powerful than most elves there is some about his rebirth that gives him great power see the thread: why did glorfindel come back to life The problem with your question is that we do not really encounter too many Noldor in LOTR. the only NAMED noldor are galadriel, glorfindel and gildor other named elves COULD have been noldor but the above are definately noldor also it depends on what type of man i'm quite sure legolas could whoop the men in bree. from the man himself I wonder if the following quote might throw some light on the elf/man strength comparison in general and Legolas' abilities in particular "there was nothing filmy or transparent about the heroic or majestic Eldar of the Third Age of Middle-earth. Long afterwards, my father (Cristopher Tolkien's referring to Ronald - E.G.) would write, in a wrathful comment on a "pretty" or "ladylike" pictorial rendering of Legolas: He was tall as a young tree, lithe, immensely strong, able swiftly to draw a great war-bow and shoot down a Nazgl, endowed with the tremendous vitality of Elvish bodies, so hard and resistant to hurt that he went only in light shoes over rock and through snow, the most tireless of all the Fellowship." The Book of Lost Tales 2, "The History of Eriol or Aelfwine"
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About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. |
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05-07-2002, 04:47 PM | #24 |
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I definitely would have chosen the Gift of Men. The Elves and Valar are confined to the world - Men are allowed to see what lies beyond it.
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05-07-2002, 05:23 PM | #25 |
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no one ever thinks that the gift of death could be total cessation
no pain no sorrow no nothing to those who suffer this could be a gift
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About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. |
05-07-2002, 08:56 PM | #26 |
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According to the Athrabeth in Morgoth's Ring, the gift from Iluvatar to man was death. However, somehow the gift became tainted by Morgoth, and was no longer a pleasent thing to recieve. This was stated by Andreth to Finrod, but she refused to elaborate further.
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05-07-2002, 09:13 PM | #27 |
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yea, i said galadriel was born in valinor
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05-09-2002, 08:12 PM | #29 |
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The Gift of Man was predetemined. This was supposedly something that Illuvatar had decided upon before he created either the "Firstborn", or the "Secondborn" Somewhere, some how, in the early history of Man, according to the "Athrabeth" Men did something wrong that possibly tainted that gift.
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05-10-2002, 10:04 AM | #30 |
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It's a very hard question. Best to be mortal and be released from care, to see the outside world, than to endure forever the suffering the loss of others causes.
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05-18-2002, 05:27 PM | #31 |
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I don't know. I wouldn't want immortality if the people I loved were mortal, because that would suck.
I think I would actually choose mortality, although I think my judgement is biased by my attatchment to the Queen song - "Who wants to live forever?" Ooh! hang on, have to go mangle.
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05-19-2002, 04:02 PM | #32 |
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That is undoubtably the greatest song in the history of the universe ever.
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05-20-2002, 02:13 PM | #34 |
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You are incorrect. I suggest new glasses.
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05-21-2002, 07:04 AM | #35 |
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But when the Elves are killed in battle (or something like that) were do they go is it not the same place as man, when they die
(I'm very new here so if I sound stupid sorry)
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You doesn't sound stupid... don't worry. Welcome!
Yeah. The elves go in their death to Mandos. The man go (I think) out of this land (I think it called Ea). I'm not sure. |
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Yes ... aware of that, the post is just explaining the dearth of named noldor
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Oh. OK. Understood now.
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