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03-04-2005, 09:07 AM | #23 |
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and what else might not make sense? a dark lord that doesnt die when he is killed because his life is preserved by a ring?
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who or what is ada, apart from a hindu lord of death, of course?
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can't be arda, arda is the entire world, including ME, Aman, and the empty lands
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Valinor: Land where the Valar live
ME: LAnd where the races live Arda: Depends on what youve read. Tolkien said its the world which Valinor and ME reside on but Chris Tolkien says his father noted somewhere that in fact Arda is the solar system in which the world resides. I prefer to believe what Tolkien wrote down himself. Also Im glad this is being discussed. I think this was mentioned somwehere else but I cant remember where. As to the matter on which this thread was based as all of this is rather off topic. If I remember correctly when the men first encountered the elves in the SIl some stayed with them and some went over the mountains in the north now known as Mordor. They went into ME and started up some of their own kingdoms. Later Isildur came up and took control. My opinion is that the hobbits were in fact one of these peoples of men who crossed over. They went all the way over. They built mounds for homes as did the mound people of Mississippi in our world. They evolved into shorter stouter people and their isolation lead to their being cautious of outsiders. Its actually quite possible for this to happen. Evolution can work rather quickly. of course thats if I remember correctly and IMO.
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03-30-2005, 09:33 PM | #35 |
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So TOlkien in fact wanted their to be other worlds with other Valar controlling them and other races. THats really cool but also a little wierd I dont know if I would have bought it. I like the way Chris put it in the Sil.
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Except for the Sun and Moon, he was not going to write about others worlds/bodies, other than to acknowlege their existance and that there were other Ainur out there building them. His purpose was to make Arda more real and to make suspension of disbelief easier with regard to the creation of Arda.
This process was to include a provenance of the stories of creation and the first age, that they were mostly not had directly from surviving elves into the form they were written, but were mostly oral tradition, and were passed through Numenor, and partialy mixed with the mythology of the Edain, so that any part that was not "real" enough could be dissmissed by the reader as a mythological add on, poetic license of some scribe (like Bilbo), or other corruption of the history without degraqding his suspension of disbelief and getting into the story.
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well I would hope he wouldnt talk about the others Im just saying that even the idea of them would shake my own reality of it for some odd deeper reason.
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Hobbits are related to the Rohirrim, aren't they? Could they also be related to Wild men?
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