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So please stay on the topic at hand. Thank you. ![]()
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This thread did go a little OT there... so I won't contibute by saying that article was a whole lot of rubbish. Oops.
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![]() Being responsible for someone for 18 very important years is the biggest responsibility I can think of. I will only undertake it when I think I can handle it - but is anyone every really ready? ![]() It could also be argued that you're responsible for their entire lives. I mean, your adult children should be able to take care of themselves, but I would still lend a hand to them if they needed. And if my child had a disablility that made it that they weren't able to be completely responsible for themselves, I'd still take care of them too. But I think that probably applies to everyone. ![]()
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You know what puts me off having kids? Remembering what I was like when I was a little holy terror.... I didn't really grow out of it either.
![]() Earniel, thanks for steering this back on topic. I DO NOT want this deviating off into another hijacked thread. ![]()
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I wonder if there's a stigma against 'child-ful-ness' as well. From my own observation, women who choose to have a large family or to stay at home with their children are looked on as somehow less intelligent, unambitious - or even brainwashed by men. I'm not old enough to know for sure what I will do with my life, but a family is a huge part of my future hopes, and I don't feel comfortable admitting that to women of my own age. I can't admit to them that I don't particularly care about having a career or living on my own, as long as my home life is happy. I know that I will have to work because I will need to support this (imaginary) family... but I don't know that I'd miss it if I didn't. I could even live without the "breakable objects stored at knee height and a pantry sadly lack in treats but happily full of vodka and gin" mentioned in the article
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I totally think you would like reading this. totally! (reminds me of Finding Nemo...the turtle surfer dude, ![]()
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It doesn't surprise me that there's peer pressure to have a career rather than kids. Almost everyone grows out of that. THe great thing is that, increasingly, you can have both. And it's even possible for fathers to share the child care
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i personally can't stand children, especially between the ages of 3 and 12, the screaming ages as my mum puts it! she would be happy to have children all the time, send them away at 18 months, and then welcome them back at 16 years, but after living with me and my sisters, who wouldn't?
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Thanks for the link, Merc (I love the surfer turtle!
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