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10-06-2004, 09:41 AM | #21 | |
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Remember though, in the future, do a search folks.
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10-06-2004, 09:50 AM | #22 | ||
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Yes, such as flatulence, a highly phisolophical subject. j/k I think EarthBound brings up a lot of good points.
Our society is odd about farts. I mean, they do stink, but they aren't that embarassing. I think it's dumb to walk around pretending we don't have any bodily functions. And they make such good jokes!
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10-06-2004, 10:46 AM | #23 | |
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10-06-2004, 12:18 PM | #24 | |
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10-06-2004, 01:11 PM | #25 |
Lady Tipple & Queen of Blessed Thistle
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Dangerous Beer (sounds like a rock group I'd see)
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Where did your original assumption come from that there was nothing to begin with? Theories are built upon that the original bag of marbles (the stuff "stuff" is made of) bounced around with a mixture of anonymous forces (witness protection program?!?!) gave rise to "everything" or "something". The point (which is a dangerous thing have, especially if you're running) is that you seeminly "can't" get "something" from nothing. Meaning, it seems likely it has to be one way or the other....always has been something (a highly unlikely state) or always remains nothing. Thus, after great debate, complete subterfuge, and intense flexing of grey-matter I've decided ........ I like beer. Farting will always remain optional.
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10-06-2004, 01:30 PM | #26 | |
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10-06-2004, 02:02 PM | #27 | |
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Much like my secretary, she won't "produce something" for "nothing", however we can quickly subjugate that we'd all feel pretty good about "getting something" for nothing......I think I'm getting a real vibe for this, or I've just sat on a fart....hard to tell.
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The use of the word "particular" is particularly peculiar to a plethora of perceptions of paradigm possibilities. Multiple “hologram-like” universe-entities induce a vomit of perplexities. The HACBR has been alerted to my postings…..Hobbits Against Constant Beer References
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10-06-2004, 07:05 PM | #28 |
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Look, we all know that in the beginning there was PANTS! Ergo, we all come from pants. Or was that in our pants?
*whew* gettin' stinky in here. ::sick::
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10-06-2004, 09:37 PM | #29 | |
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Nothing from nothing leaves nothing. Ya gotta have something...
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I am going to designate this thread as "newbie-friendly" since there's been some discussion of its being redundant. I think it's fine to have this one going, and we'll look at it as a place where newbies can feel comfortable giving their views on nothing. |
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10-06-2004, 10:14 PM | #30 |
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Actually, the "if a tree falls" question can be answered with psychology and some knowledge of sound waves and the brain.
::I love my professor!::
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10-06-2004, 11:28 PM | #31 |
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About the tree thing,
IF A MAN SPEAKS IN THE WOODS AND THERE IS NO WOMAN TO HEAR HIM, is he still wrong? and, I think the final poetic expression on fart (latinized to flatulence for delicates) was in fact written, IIRC, by Lord Byron who wrote: "he emitted a fart so foul the very air was turned green" (or something like it). Now having established these two basic facts about existence, tell me how Lepetomaine made a career on stage of demonstrating the altogether humorous existence of flatulence in a society which denied it had bodily functions? And that his illustrious and renumerative career was based on a veritably unique voluntary control over both his sphincter and descending colon such that it could inspire and expire at will? Now we are talking NOTHING (but it was known in an earlier time as piffle or bosh cf. D.L.Sayers Lord Peter Wimsey novels). <not that i mean that grand dame of detection and theology actually herself addressed the second of our lead in subjects, but rather that she demonstrated the technique in this thread as known in the inter-WW period in England amongst educated society members aka Harriet and Lord Peter, of course>
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10-07-2004, 10:23 AM | #32 | |
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Hmmmm...how about, "If a man Farts in the forest and there is no woman to grimace and complain, is it still as much fun????" That's the question, yes, that's the question.......deep thoughts this morning. Deep Green Gassy Thoughts.......oh, you have to like that word gassy… "Mike would have taken Sue to the dance, but his pants were rather gassy." Pure Poetry!!!!!!
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10-07-2004, 01:52 PM | #33 | ||
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10-07-2004, 02:10 PM | #34 | |
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Beer + Pizza = N'uff said Happy to be here The HACBR has been alerted to my postings…..Hobbits Against Constant Beer References Beer is living proof that God loves us and wants us to be happy. --Ben Franklin I want my Mooter T-Shirt! |
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10-07-2004, 02:55 PM | #35 | ||
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There you go with "we" again -- who is this mysterious "we" of which you speak? I disagree with your premise that "if we perceived differently reality would be different." I guess it depends on what you're perceiving: something physical or something emotional. Let's have an example. Anyone? |
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10-07-2004, 03:13 PM | #36 |
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if you are blind how do you percieve the color orange? if you are not a dog how do you percieve what a dog whistle sounds like? if you had a sixth sense how would the rest of us percieve stimuli that only triggers that sixth sense? Do WE need any more examples now?
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10-07-2004, 06:36 PM | #37 |
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If everyone went blind today, does that mean that the color orange no longer exists?
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
10-07-2004, 08:22 PM | #38 |
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Other animals can perceive orange. It's rather egocentric to think that the world only exists as humans perceive it.
But if there were no living things left on the earth, no, the color orange would not exist since it is not being perceived. Color is not a property of an object, it's simply light reflections that the human eye can perceive.
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10-07-2004, 08:33 PM | #39 | |
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10-07-2004, 08:42 PM | #40 | |
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