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I don't think it will win them any votes (at least, not any votes they don't already have). It just shows they don't have any new ideas, and are only capable of thinking "we're Tories - we want lower taxes!"
When I studied Politics we were repeatedly told that in opinion polls people say they want higher taxes because it makes them feel virtuous, but that they don't really want them and any party which doesn't promise low taxes is on to a loser. But I do wonder - maybe people say they want higher taxes because they actually do want higher taxes... as long as they can see improvements for their money. I know I'd pay higher taxes (not that I pay taxes, but whatever) for better public services if I could be sure that was what I was going to get. Anyone else? Last edited by sun-star : 01-17-2005 at 02:33 PM. |
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I was more taken by the way BBC portrayed today's events. Headline: Torys' plans. 15 minutes later: The Lib Dems have declared today that they are the real opposition.
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my mum watched a bit by charles kennedy earlier, and it has finally pushed her into saying she will vote for lib dems, at last!
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How very Shakespearian of you.
I would certainly agree with the notion of free tertiary education; I strongly disagree with the idea that x % of the country should go to university. However, this would require a cross in the (sorry, Chry) box of the Lib Dems. Sunny - I agree with you're questioning. It sounds a very politics department analysis. How precisely do those wanting higher taxes raise their hand?
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eh, do you mean you would vote for lib dems?
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No... I'm afraid I was saying that it was unfortunate that we agreed on this issue... since a vote in the old yellow box wasn't gonna happen. But on the plus side, I'm seventeen and won't be able to not vote Lib Dem for another year.
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Now here's a good policy:
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I read about a comunist policy that rather tickled my fancy.
They would take a cart around town centres at around two in the morning. If someone was incapable of maintaining... erm... vertical-ness, they were chucked on the cart and taken to a 'de-drunking' station, where they had their stomach pumped. At sunrise, they were sent on their merry way. Oh, letters to the Telegraph... ![]()
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some people are more suited to vocational subjects, or artistic subjects, than they are to academic subjects and as for Schama - my history was not hitler and the henrys! 1st year - 1685-1750 british history 2nd year - 1750-1900 british history gcse - weimar germany, the rise of european dictatorships, the cold war |
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A quickie: my mate, a history lecturer, has to tell his (university) students who Margaret Thatcher was :eek
Don't know if making it compulsory is the answer: better to teach it better up to age 14! What about indefinite house arrest without trial? What do folk think of that idea? |
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I know who Margaret Thatcher was and I'm not even British! Probably most Brits do know though. All I know is she was PM during the conflict with Argentina over the Falkland Islands.
A quick Google properly names this as the Falkland war. Heh. ![]() ![]()
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1979-90: Thatcher 1990-97: Major 1997-now: Blair The Falklands war was in 1982. Quote:
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May it be noted that sun-star has A* grade GCSE maths and double award science.
What confuses me somewhat about this whole detention thing is the fickle nature of the press. It's terrible and evil and American for these people to kept in American custody, but when they get home the first thing Johnny Humphries of the Today programme asks is why are these maniacs being let out at all. ![]() (So I paraphrase a little... what of it? ![]()
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From the geography thread...
Is Ken Livingstone (mayor of London) the completely awesome genius who suggested the 5 pound tax to bring your car into the city centre (if you don't live there)? I think that's how the program works.
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I'm following you round Nurv! Yep that's him. Working pretty well so far, it seems.
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