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Has anyone listened to the sound files that Hughens taped? On themselves they're not really spectacular but when considering they're taped on a far-off planet they're rather cool.
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Don't tell me that they cut Hubble's maintenance budget!
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Yes, after the NASA command squelched human repair missions, the cost and untried (hell, uninvented!) robotic technology really cannot be justified. I hate to see it happen.
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NASA's Cassini Discovers Potential Liquid Water on Enceladus
Where there's water, there might be life. If liquid water can be found on a tiny, rather unknown moon of Saturn, I'd say chances are good to find water on some of the other tiny moons as well. There are plenty of moons to examine in our solar system and if we can just get some water samples from one or a few of them, we might get an answer to one of our biggest questions - are we or are we not alone? So do we still need a space programme? I think Cassini's promising discovery suggests that we do ![]()
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Wow, that's so cool! Go Cassini! *waves little Cassini support flag*
We still keep discovering new moons in our own backyard of the galaxy. I wonder when we'll ever have the time to visit and study them all properly. All in all, I think on space-probe field, we've really been spoilt the last few years. Spirit and Opportunity, the Genesis project, Deep Impact, Cassini-Huygens, Hubble showing off again, New Horizons launched, etc... I keep thinking we'll be starved in a couple of years because now we're seeing the result of planning and building of space probes that started years ago and only now are come into action. But now that NASA has to work with an ever thighter budget, I fear we'll only see the effects of that in a few years.
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That is definitely a worrisome technological increase on their part. Now that China has worked out this technology, it could devastate much for our country's conventional national defense, because we're so dependent on those satellites.
This, I think, is an argument to bring our old Star Wars program back to the table. Not that that's necessarily a good idea, but this would be an argument for it.
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Would Star Wars be technically capable of protecting these satellites? As I recall it couldn't even guarantee to take out incoming ICBMs.
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![]() But if people are going to claim space again for their own, I'm going to get very cross.
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New Horizon visits Jupiter
Fastest lauch ever, indeed! In a year after its launch, New Horizon will visit Jupiter next month. I'm looking forward to the new material it'll will collect.
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Jupiter already, yeah that was fast. But the most interesting material won't be collected until 2015 when New Horizons reaches its destination
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But if you think about it, New Horizons is 'already' near Jupiter now, but still has to go eight years to Pluto, then Pluto really is a looooong way off!
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I was going to say it hasn't been that long Cassini visited Jupiter but heh, that's still like six years ago. Time flies
![]() New Horizons better travel fast. Every day Pluto goes farther and farther away from the Sun and its atmosphere freezes and gets just thinner. New Horizons better get there until Pluto's atmosphere disappears completely, so that we can study it. We won't get another chance for another 200 or so years.
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I fully approve of measures to keep the environment protected, provided we can also continue to develop technology and make use of its resources. I'm willing to accept some cuts to that industrial development, for the protection of the environment, and some cuts to the environment for the sake of industrial development. It's a question of where to set the balance. I think the same should go for space. Quote:
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But we don't live in space, we don't own space. We don't need to go out there. Earth is an enclosed world, space is not. No matter where you are on earth, we are all just as far or as close to space. Unlike land, no one can lay claim on space any more than the next guy. Claiming planets, and land on other planets is of course a different situation, but one that does not yet has come up. It'll be an interesting debate when we do get to it. But take Antartica for example, it's shared. It's an unique situation, but one I would think ideal for space as well. "A natural reserve, devoted to peace and science", could easily fit space (except that space doesn't have much ecosystem of course). And didn't the plaque that the Apollo 11 left on the moon say: "Here Men From The Planet Earth First Set Foot Upon the Moon, July 1969 A.D. We Came in Peace For All Mankind." For all mankind, indeed, I think so it should remain. Sharing is possible. Sharing would be the best and most civil solution. But yes, space will need a regulation to protect it.
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Perhaps there's one (deeply ironic) consolation: having a true balance of power in the world might be a restraining influence. This was my beef with SDI/missile shields: nuclear weapons can only be justified because of the principle of "mutually assured destruction". As soon as one side gets a system which prevents them being destroyed by enemy nukes, you have no justification for having them. I would hope that this gets both sides to sit around the table and come up with some sort of treaty. And preferably soon, before Taiwan kicks off... Antarctica would be a good model, but I can't see it happening. There is too much at stake, both commercially and politically. |
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