Theology III

[Lief Erikson]

Originally Posted by sisterandcousinandaunt

So, in answer to my questions about "Source of information on early martyrdom" I get "Lief's current copy of his preferred Bible."

Plus early Church Tradition- you forgot to mention that.

Sis, whether my Bible copy is "preferred" or "current" is irrelevant. The same meaning can be found in these verses in any of the broadly accepted translations. You are only using these words to mock.

Originally Posted by sisterandcousinandaunt

In answer to my statement about 'Liars going to Hell", I get "Section of Lief's current copy of his preferred Bible written by someone who probably never met Jesus, (and may never have set foot in that area of the world,) decades after he died."

Good grief. You said that the disciples never taught this, and I found for you multiple verses from teachings attributed to them from an extremely early time period which show the opposite. You just responded with more mockery.

We know that the Early Church attributed the teachings of these epistles to the disciples and many of the Church Fathers who were instructed to pass on the disciples' teaching died for their belief in what they were doing, which shows that they were pretty well chosen and that they sincerely did their best to pass on these teachings accurately. We have their testimony to confirm the testimony of the Gospels. It is strong evidence.

Originally Posted by sisterandcousinandaunt

You know, as far as 'Dying for their faith", the Jews still hold the title. Just for the record.
"Hear oh Israel, the Lord Our God, the Lord is One."

If you're suggesting that the Early Christians weren't dying for their faith, this is absurd, for Jesus claimed to be God and then proved it by rising from the dead. So the belief in the Trinity became a part of Christian thought right from the beginning. Also, the Old Testament does predict that the Messiah will be called, "Everlasting Father, Mighty God, Prince of Peace," and there are many other references to God in the Old Testament that imply the Trinity. Though I grant you there was debate over exactly how it worked, amongst the early Christians, and the Arians rejected the Trinity completely.

I think I'm finished responding to you on this thread, for quite a while at least, Sis. The sneering and sarcastic tone that permeates many of your posts makes it impossible for me to respond to them with any pleasure.