Theology III

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Originally Posted by brownjenkins

Faith is the firm belief in something that is unprovable. Like our old discussions on the existence of god. We both agreed that it's ultimately unprovable whether he exists or not. But you still have faith that he does.

And you believe that there isn't enough evidence to decide either way, and so you basically live like there isn't a god.

Logic, on the other hand, is the process of proving something.

I disagree. Now logic can be used to prove something. But logic is basically the "science of correct reasoning; science which describes relationships among propositions in terms of implication, contradiction, contrariety, conversion, etc.;" (Websters) IOW, it is a tool to help a person think and analyze as well as possible in a situation, given the information available.

And you can't prove, or disprove, something that is unprovable.

Exactly. So you use logic to help analyze the thing as much as possible, then make a decision about it. We make faith-based decisions all the time using logic as far as it will take us.

Thus, faith has nothing to do with logic.

Sure it does. Christianity is more than "God exists!" There's lots of tenets in Christianity that can be logically analyzed. Now some can't be logically proved, but they can be logically analyzed.

If you could prove god's existance via logic, you wouldn't need to resort to faith.

The final step in both Christianity and atheism involves faith. IMO, the final step in agnosticism involves faith, too, because I think that when an agnostic stands before God, he/she will finally acknowledge that they had enough information to make a reasonable decision that God exists.