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Old 02-01-2006, 05:12 PM   #11
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Originally Posted by brownjenkins
it is very difficult to have a discussion when one side can not let go of completely black and white concepts... i don't know how many times i've mentioned that morality stems from the society one lives in... and it's a very "grey" thing... people assassinate "good" people (i.e. MLK), and very "bad" people work their way into positions of power and get their populace behind them for a time due to fear or sometimes even the promise of success (i.e. hitler)

but if you look at the totality of history, the bad guys do not succeed in the long run... MLKs vision was realized, eventhough he did not live to see it... hitler was defeated and the nazi concepts largely defeated as well

human society has become better at encouraging the things that are good for society, and discouraging the things that are bad over the centuries... why? not because of god, but because IT WORKS! the united states is a great example of this very fact

do you really think i would just "join the SS" after reading all i have posted here? and, if not, why do you say it?
But, BJ, your contention that morality stems from society is of no more validity than your complaints about black and white in others' views. Would you make societal approval black or white? So the opposite would be the other.

And, I for one, do not think you have joined the SS unless it was an approved German value in the 1930's and 1940's. Wait a minute.........
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