Gays, lesbians, bisexuals

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Originally Posted by Nurvingiel

I concede the point that it is sometimes useful to define groups by unchangeable characteristics (like in the San Fran example - hopefully the pamphlets are useful! )

I hope so, too, for I care about homosexuals just as much as heterosexuals, and AIDS is a terrible disease.

No one else has conceded this point yet.

Will anyone else concede it now? If not, why not?

What!? That's ridiculous, you know I don't believe that. (Though I see where you're going with this. )

Yes, I knew, but I wanted to hear it

I do believe that homosexuals have no control whatsoever over their sexual orientation. Heterosexuals also have no control over their sexual orientation.

I agree to a large extent, but not totally.

Both homosexuals and heterosexuals can choose to have relationships (or not), have sex (or not), eat tomatoes (or not), etc. Neither group has some sort of unending libido that they can't help but try to satisfy.

I agree (hey, Spock, we're setting records with agreement here!)

However, while heterosexuals can choose to marry, in many countries, homosexuals are not allowed to make this choice. I think the same choices should be open to both homosexual and heterosexual adults, since both have the same ability to make this choice (among other reasons).

Here's another group, just for the sake of discussion - brothers and sisters. Do you think they should be allowed to marry? Remember, abortion is legal (get rid of the possible genetic problems) and adoption/AI is possible (have kids, just like homosexuals have to do)