Theological Opinions , PART II

[Nurvingiel]

That's very interesting Elvellyn, I never thought about it that way before.

Though I agree that we can't be 100 percent sure of everything, I do think we can be sure enough of some things to call them facts. Gravity, for example, is something that we're sure enough about that we can say it's a scientific law. We can say that gravity exists, that's a fact.

Then again, some of our ancestors were absolutely sure that the world was flat. They didn't have the knowledge available to us today to show them otherwise. In the future, there will be scientific facts we're sure of now proven wrong, unkowns will be answered, and new discoveries made. Some old facts will be discarded and some new facts will arise.

But none of this has to do with moral rightness or wrongness. These are judgements made in people's hearts, and by societies. We often base these beliefs on facts, or other beliefs.

My belief that being gay is not the slightest bit sinful or wrong is based on observations of people, and my heart, and a bit on my own society. I'm from a society, and family, liberal enough that it's okay to disagree with the majority. Many people don't have this luxury and have to hide their beliefs.

I also think discrimination is wrong. I think of discrimination as the violation of someone's rights. I do not think imprisoning a criminal is discrimination, because the imprisonment is based on the person's actions - by violating some of the rights of others, he has temporarily forfeited some of his own rights. (ie. that of mobility).

Many people who oppose gay marriage think many other forms of discrimination are wrong. There isn't a clear line of people who do discriminate and people who don't. Our own governments protect the rights of many vulnerable people, but the voting age is still 19, thereby discriminating against youth. But that's a rant for another thread.

The government has logical reasons and thought-out beliefs to not allow children and teens the right to vote. Personally, I think it's still discrimination, and wrong. Many people who oppose gay marriage also have logical reasons and thought-out beliefs. I still think this is also discrimination, and I still think this is wrong. My point in all this is that people who discriminate, in a broad sense of the word, aren't necessarily hateful or irrational. But they still discriminate.