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Old 01-03-2002, 12:19 PM   #1
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Who is Eldest: Fangorn or Bombadil?

Please forgive me if this issue has already been brought up.

Bombadil is identified as the Oldest, and Fatherless, by both Elrond and Glorfindel at the Council of Elrond. Yet, when Gandalf the White returns to Aragorn, Legolas and Gimli in the eaves of Fangorn, he identifies Treebeard as "the oldest of the ents, the oldest living thing that still walks beneath the Sun upon this Middle-Earth".

So which is it? Is Bombadil the Firstborn, or is it Fangorn?

Many thanks for any thoughts you fellow Entmooters might have for this Enting....
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