Gods, elves, demons and magic

afro-elf · 12-23-2001, 06:49 AM

there is a debate about the balrogs concerning their power and number

be they 7, 12, or many

the SIL calls them DEMONS they are MAIAR
and the slaying of one no matter their number is a major feat

on some site that i can no longer find they made a comparision using the christian/judaedic/islamic order of beings

ERU= the one god of the aforementioned beliefs
VALAR= the greater gods of myths

MAIAR = seem to vary in power some seem to rival the VALAR like eonwe/melian/sauron while others seem to be quite minor i would say the greatest of them are lesser gods and the most minor of them just spirits

the greatest of the calaquendi would seem to be arch angels and
the other elves various angels down the line don't recall the order of angles seriphum to chereb(?)

also i'm reading the SIL now and say that elves used magics, wizardary, arts ( an archaic word for magic =craft also)

but as posted elsewhere it could only be a matter of semantics
any thoughts on these ideas

12-23-2001, 06:49 AM	#1
afro-elf Hoplite Nomad Join Date: Sep 2001 Posts: 3,931	Gods, elves, demons and magic there is a debate about the balrogs concerning their power and number be they 7, 12, or many the SIL calls them DEMONS they are MAIAR and the slaying of one no matter their number is a major feat on some site that i can no longer find they made a comparision using the christian/judaedic/islamic order of beings ERU= the one god of the aforementioned beliefs VALAR= the greater gods of myths MAIAR = seem to vary in power some seem to rival the VALAR like eonwe/melian/sauron while others seem to be quite minor i would say the greatest of them are lesser gods and the most minor of them just spirits the greatest of the calaquendi would seem to be arch angels and the other elves various angels down the line don't recall the order of angles seriphum to chereb(?) also i'm reading the SIL now and say that elves used magics, wizardary, arts ( an archaic word for magic =craft also) but as posted elsewhere it could only be a matter of semantics any thoughts on these ideas __________________ About Eowyn, Does anyone know what her alias Dernhelm means? She was kown as dernhelm because of her exclaimation when she realized that the rider's headgear was heavy and obscured her sight. 'Dern Helm" Culled from Entmoot From Kirinski 57 and Wayfarer. Last edited by afro-elf : 12-23-2001 at 06:54 AM.