Gandalf vs. the Nazgul at Amon Sul

Bacchus · 12-11-2003, 11:58 AM

In a (now closed) thread on the movies forum, I made reference to Gandalf's battle with the Nine at Weathertop. Jerseydevil commented that the text is ambiguous on whether all Nine were actually present. Upon review of the relevent passages in The Council of Elrond, I find that he is correct that Gandalf does not explicitly say that he battles all Nine. However, my opinion is that immediately following statements referring to the folly of seeking Frodo in the Wild with all the Nine at his heels, and the fact that Gandalf drew off four leaving only five to attack the camp on 6 October, strongly implies that all Nine were present at Amon Sul on 3 October.

Thoughts?

12-11-2003, 11:58 AM	#1
Bacchus Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Houston TX USA Posts: 245	Gandalf vs. the Nazgul at Amon Sul In a (now closed) thread on the movies forum, I made reference to Gandalf's battle with the Nine at Weathertop. Jerseydevil commented that the text is ambiguous on whether all Nine were actually present. Upon review of the relevent passages in The Council of Elrond, I find that he is correct that Gandalf does not explicitly say that he battles all Nine. However, my opinion is that immediately following statements referring to the folly of seeking Frodo in the Wild with all the Nine at his heels, and the fact that Gandalf drew off four leaving only five to attack the camp on 6 October, strongly implies that all Nine were present at Amon Sul on 3 October. Thoughts? __________________ Yet neither by wolf, nor by Balrog, nor by Dragon, would Morgoth have achieved his end, but for the treachery of Men. Always after a defeat and a respite, the Shadow takes another shape and grows again.

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