Offshoot discussion of "what religion are you" thread

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I wanted to try to revive this topic, because I wanted to hear from the athiests a little more about their views on suffering. I don't think the atheistic view matches what we see and experience all around us every day, and I think the Christian view does.

Originally posted by GrayMouser
Origins of suffering: the Universe is as it is, and does not conform to our desires.

On the level of human as opposed to natural evil , having evolved as social animals, we exist between the poles of our desire to survive and our instinct to co-operate and help one another.

Purpose to suffering: none

Solutions to suffering: use our human intelligence and what moral feelings we have to make the world a little better.

OK, given these views, it seems like one could make the following deductions (please tell me if you agree with them):

1. So there is no being outside of the universe? If that's the case, why should it matter if I go around hurting people? After all, we're all just accidents.

2. But we could just as easily have evolved as non-social animals - in fact, maybe that's the next step in our evolution! - so you can have no objection to my going around hurting people, because instincts are neither right nor wrong, correct?

3. Then you can have no objection to my killing everyone and putting them out of their misery, right?

4. Why even bother to find a solution if there is no problem? How can one moral feeling be judged better than another, unless there is some outside standard that we judge them against? We're all gonna end up as slime again anyway, just like our supposed ancestor, so why not just kill everyone and get it over with?

(ps - I do NOT condone killing everyone, obviously! but only bring it up as a logical problem I see with the atheistic and evolutionary viewpoint.)