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Old 09-13-2000, 04:42 AM   #11
juntel
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Where many paths and errands meet

Taimar

There are no toes to step on here. Glad you share your opinion.

"neurological mechanism at work which acts as a distraction, even in woman who have no offspring"

The distracting mechanism in men is called sexual lust; it's sometimes called also football or baseball lust.


Gilthalion

"[Oprah's] show aired The Kiss with predictable near swooning from the (female) studio audience"RATS

Anduin answered you very well.
So what happened in the show in no way supports what you already said before about the kissing thing.

"I maintain, however, my opposition to the extremists that have hijacked our institutions and media and have shaped public opinion contrary to Reality"

Wow. Hijacked. I guess you would call them Traitors as well, with a capital "T".
Public opinions shaped against Reality is what was done mostly by religions, including christianity: miracles, virgin births, incarnate god...
Public opinions shaped against Reality is what is done mostly by conservatives (not even extremist ones!): woman that have their "places" at home, in the kitchen, raising children and waiting for the husband (refer to Eruve's quotes!).RATS

Your position is an anachronism.
But anachronism is what the conservative right is a lot about anyways (not all though, fortunately...).

"Men and Women are different, some more so than others."

*Sigh* I will just quote myself(!) to answer this one:

"Again, no one among feminists or others would say altogether the contrary to the last statement. It never has been an issue about beeing "the same", but about equality of rights and opportunities; rights and opportunities have been traditionally been in favor of men, and I think you agreed with that."

So this is not about men and women being different, but about equal opportunities in real life.
To this day, there are still sexists that think women should stay at home, and not occupy important positions traditionally taken by men...

"--Too many women are be inclined to silliness of this sort and will not concern themselves with the vital issues from which men cannot shift their gaze.
--Too many men are inclined to obtuseness about the legitimate concerns that are patently obvious to most women."


I would like to know what in your opinion are those "vital issues" men are so concentrated on and about which "too many" women are inclined to silliness to; and what are the "legitimate concerns" women have that too many men are obtused about.

And why in one case it is about "vital issues" of men, whereas in the other it is merely "legitimate concerns" of women...


"With universal sufferage, voting rights granted indiscriminantly to the entire adult population, these at-large tendencies are predictable and are demonstratable across decades of polls and elections."

Well, this obviously goes beyond the issue of Women.

So, here or in another thread, i'd like to know who for you should the right to vote be granted. And to whom it should be removed from.
I think you have already expressed here somewhat that certain women should have their right to vote questioned; but in general, I would like to know your criteria for your democracy.


"Clinton Regime"

" Regime: a system or rule or government". I'll suppose you used that definition of the word.


RATS "If the Republicans fail to bring America back to the center, we will fall off the ravine to the Left"

I guess the Right often think the Center is too lefty, and the Left often think its too righty...


"perhaps [...] some of you guys can help pull us away from the abyss on the Right"

The Abysmal Right isn't heaven either...
Let's find another Road; time maybe to leave the beaten paths that lead to either Abysses...

"We won't make much progress, if through the ineptitude of the Socialists, freedom and prosperity is lost and squandered."

The hearthlesness and ravenousness of ultra-Capitalists doesn't help either.
Neither extremes of those groups have brought any good.
Both are ultimately serving only their defenders.

Freedom as never been served by any of these two capitalized labels.
And prosperity makes only sense if it serves the population, not only a few handfull that can manipulate the degree of freedom of the population.
 
 



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