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01-21-2003, 02:17 AM | #11 | ||||
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OK - littlest 2 are in bed, older one is watching basketball with dad, his 6th grade science project is 99% finished (ran out of double-sided tape) (project - how far will red laser light go through different colored jello?), and the 6th load of laundry is in the dryer (didn't get ANY laundry done this weekend, too busy! Lots of fun, 'tho - my mother-in-law almost died of cookie inhalation because my sister-in-law and I were making her laugh so hard while she was eating - death certificate would have been funny - "asphyxiation by cookie"?)
I've wanted to get back to what Eärniel and EG had asked about - the (roughly) "can you be saved if you've never heard of Jesus" question. We talked a bit about it, and something EG said in one of her responses stuck out and I thought "No, no, I didn't quite mean it that way", but it just kinda got lost in the queue for a bit. I've been meaning to get back to it, and our pastor mentioned a verse in the sermon yesterday that illustrated what I wanted to bring up about it, so without making this long and ambiguous introductory statement any longer, here's what I wanted to say: Quote:
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This is one of those complicated topics, as I said before, and I think that I probably wasn't as clear as I wanted to be. What I wanted to re-address and/or clarify was related to Eärniel's second sentence, and EG's quote that I can't find tonite What I wanted to be sure to get across is that it is NOT MERELY belief in the sense of believing that God exists, it is faith/belief that also includes the placing of yourself under the lordship of God to the extent that it affects your actions. The verse that the pastor mentioned was the following: Quote:
Abraham, however, had faith in God, and acted on his faith by being (or at least trying to be - he failed many times!) obedient to what he knew of God's will. It wasn't just "ok, I believe that there is a God, but now I'll get on with the rest of my life and not worry about it at all, or how it might affect me." Just one example - Quote:
The NT talks about this by clearly stating that we are saved by faith, but also saying that if there are not works (i.e., obedience to God's law), then there is no faith actually present. Works are the evidence of, and the natural outgrowth of, a true faith in God. And even 'tho the desert island guy doesn't have a Bible, still, God's moral code is written on his heart, and he could obey that. I hope that helps to clarify things a bit.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 01-21-2003 at 02:54 AM. |
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