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"The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!” |
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04-16-2002, 08:42 PM | #42 |
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Eowyn!
Mainly because Arwen had about zero part in the book, so it's hard to like her - not much personality. Plus I sympathize with Eowyn.
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04-16-2002, 08:47 PM | #43 | |
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"The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!” |
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04-16-2002, 08:49 PM | #44 |
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04-16-2002, 08:50 PM | #45 |
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"The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!” |
04-16-2002, 09:38 PM | #46 |
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i would say Eowyn, because of a few things (shieldmaiden factor, sheer "there"-ness, and movie-Arwen), but Arwen is a really cool character. Compared to Arwen, Eowyn hasn't got a snowball's chance in hell. I mean, look at who her ancestors were, just on her father's mother's side! Luthien Tinuviel. Dior, Heir of Thingol. Melian the Maia. and a bloody Noldorian King, Elu Thingol! (previously known as Elwe). i'm not even going to go into the other side of her family (Galadriel, Finarfin..)!
plus, Arwen is even more beautiful than the Lady Galadriel, and she is sometimes thought to be Luthien Tinuviel, the most beautiful woman ever to walk Arda, returned to life. And she gets to be Queen of Gondor and married to Aragorn. Eowyn? HA! I laugh...mwahahahaha!!!
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Yeah, but . . . I don't know, Arwen's just kind of boring. She has no presence, and no problems. I love Eowyn because she's so desperate and strong-willed. She's human (I mean in spirit, not in race), and so much easier to identify with.
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04-16-2002, 10:44 PM | #48 |
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true FF. but what the heck, Arwen is under-represented on this thread I think. so yeah, Eowyn is cool, fiery slay-Ringwraith-y marry-Farawin-y Xena type gal. Arwen is ELVISH!!!!! mwahahahaha...
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04-17-2002, 01:08 PM | #49 |
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Elves are cool. But only when they have some interest factor. If they do nothing (as when They are dreaming- Mercedes Lackey reference) they are extremely boring. Why does everyone love the ears? Or is it just the idea of elves?
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"The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!” |
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Wait until you read the Disc World variant of elves. Uk, scary.
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"The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!” |
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04-17-2002, 08:04 PM | #52 |
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I know Arwen has an awesome ancestory, but doesn't matter to me. I can sympathise with Eowyn cause I would go out to battle like her and I know what it is like to be in love with a guy who doens't want you.
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04-17-2002, 11:57 PM | #53 |
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What does the ancestory have to do with anything, it doesn't say anything about her.
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"The Astels are an emotional people. They cry at the drop of a handkerchief. Their culture is much like that of Pelosia. They're extremely devot and invincibly backward. It's been demonstrated to them over an over that serfdom is an archaic, inefficent institution, but they maintain it anyway--largely at the connivance of the serfs thmselves. Astellian nobles don't exert themselves in any way, so they have no concept of human endurance. The serfs take advantage of that outrageously. Astellian serfs have been known to collapse from sheer exhauston at the very mention of such unpleasant words as 'reaping' or 'digging'." ----------------------------------------------- “They lost him?!” Lupin asked , amazed. “Voldemort has been after Harry for 15 years, and then he misplaces him?!” |
04-18-2002, 06:04 PM | #54 |
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It doesn't necessarily tell you anything but combine it with accounts of her and she is really nilda(sorry elvish). Arwen vanimelda Namárië (LoRI 367)
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04-18-2002, 06:10 PM | #55 |
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I would personally go for someone like Eowyn. Having said that, i am happy with who I have at the moment.
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04-18-2002, 08:44 PM | #56 |
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Eowyn!!!! Duh. Proof!
Book- 1.Ok well you guys all say arwen was going to give up her immotilty for aragorn. EOWYN WAS GOING TO DIE FOR HIM!!! NOT LIVE FOR ANOTHER 121 YEARS AND THEN DIE. INSTENTLY DIE. 2. Who styed at home wif her daddy? WHO RODE IN BATTLE AGENST THE #2 EVIL GUY, AND ALMOST KILLED HERSELF IN THE PROCESS. Movie- 1. ARWEN STOLE GLORFINDELS PART!!!!! GO GLORFINDEL!!! 2. WHAT IF ARWEN'S CLUMSY LITTLE HAND HAD SLIPPED AN THAT SWORD HAD KILLED ARAGORN?!! SHE HAS GOT TO BE MORE CAREFUL!! |
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Ah, a quote to back me up...
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04-18-2002, 11:30 PM | #59 |
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I don't think anyone ever MEANS to die for someone, it just happens.
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04-19-2002, 10:40 PM | #60 |
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OK You have a point there. But I bet Arwen only gave up her immortility and married King Elesser so she could be famous for thousands of years to come. And that way more people would admire her "great beuty".
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