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I'll be back to respond to the rest of your post soon, I expect .
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I think you have your sociology and psychology in a mish mash Lief. Men are ALL ABOUT proving themselves every freaking minute of the day. Its in OUR genes. Especially when theres females around. So ban the men from voting cause then you may get more rational votes.
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How does it logically follow from my position that one man should make the national security decisions as opposed to many men pooling their brains? It doesn't. Quote:
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08-24-2007, 02:18 AM | #124 | |
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Did anyone else have their age of consent for sex set at younger than 16? As best I can see, 16 seems to be the arbitrary limit set by most...? (Mine was set at 12.) Why 12, you ask (or at least sisaunt did...)? Well, because that's the age a lot of kids are becoming sexually active, and in this day of STIs, 'tis far better to have the age of sexual consent set young, so that parents can take an active part in ensuring that their kids practice sex safely (and therefore hopefully drive down teen pregnancy, etc).
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This can only be based on the assumption that war (violence, aggression) is on the whole a good thing. Ever see a bar room brawl develop? Usually two males get into an argument about some absolutely trivial thing, any females around try to restrain it, but male stupidity triumphs. Scale that up and call it human history.
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This is, of course, do as I say, not as I did
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08-24-2007, 10:24 AM | #127 |
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Mine is 13.
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Perhaps land ownership proves the genetics necessary to make such decisions. So perhaps we should go back to the original way we used to do things in this country. Only males with significant land ownership have the right to vote. Because clearly their genetics prove their ability to righteously represent all the other folk who aren’t capable of holding such an awesome responsibility… And they will never be flawed or abuse that privilege by definition right? Quote:
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08-24-2007, 06:33 PM | #131 |
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GrayMouser and Insidious, I'm responding to your posts in the Gender Issues Thread.
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I've know 30-year-olds who don't have the psychological maturity to deal with sexual relationships. In fact, it's one of the few things in life that can still throw me for a loop at 40. All "age of consent" really means is that you do not automatically throw two 13-year-olds in jail for having sex, or even a 13-year-old and an 18-year-old. It's not condoning rape.
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So you're the Christian version of Iran (without the Ayotollah) then? Do you find this as ironic as I do? You're always talking about Islamist extremists, and to be fair, the only countries I know of that only allow one religion are ones who only allow Islam. However, the supreme irony of all this is as soon as you're given the opportunity to create the ideal country, you do the exact same thing. Maybe you shouldn't be too hard on the extremists, since you are exactly the same, just with a different religion. Quote:
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With respect to idols in the home, an idiot guest might mistake art for an idol. What does an idol look like? Will this be explained in your laws? Secondly, people who do possess idols will most assuredly not just have them lying about the house. Since non-Christian religions are illegal, they will meet in secret and hide any religious affects, just like the early Christians did when Christianity was outlawed by the Roman Empire. And look how well that worked out for them. Thirdly, there are a lot more ways to be a non-Christian than to have idols and spout heresies. And I do mean a lot. You had better train your Inquisitors or whoever is going to enforce this law to recognise them all. Also, they should be trained to tell different Christians apart. The only Christian things in my fiancé and my appartment are:
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By restricting the deployment of soldiers based on something irrelevant like gender (as opposed to something relevant like combat fitness) you're potentially holding back very good soldiers and therefore reducing the quality of combat units and by extension, needlessly wasting lives. Armies should be making every effort to preserve the lives of their soldiers, and this means updating strategy and policy to reflect the nature of any conflict in which they are currently involved. Of course, what logic has to do with the military is anyone's guess.
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None of these things would ever have gotten anywhere in law if only one religion was allowed. These all come from broadly varying forms of morality and religion, and from people without any religion. So one absolutely cannot have "one set of morals in your laws" while not having a state religion. It doesn't come out in practice unless religious freedom technically exists while in practice everybody follows one religion. That produces the same result one would hope for by having one religion, though by a roundabout means. The US got away with that for the first couple hundred years of our existence, by and large, but since then the true nature of our laws has caught up to us. And, in my view, it's destroying us.
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If I owned my own country, I'd sell it as fast as I could and live somewhere else with a buncha friends and family.
If I absolutely HAD to stay and rule, I think I might institute a democracy and have people vote on things and let things fall where they may - it seems to be the least bad choice of all the bad choices.
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I tried to explain myself in a number of recent detailed posts in the Gender Issues Thread. They weren't addressed to you but to others with the same position, so I don't know if you've read them. I don't think I have anything more to add to that. Quote:
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My country would be willing to attack and conquer other countries if the circumstances required it. For instance, we would have fought Hitler in WW2 and we would have engaged in the Cold War against Russia. That is not the same as an Islamic jihadi who wants to impose his own religious world order upon everyone else through the means of military conquest and terrorism. Quote:
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There also was temporary enslavement where someone would enslave himself to someone else for a while to pay a debt. There also were cases where it would not be economically possible for an employer to take on somebody else as an employee, so the only way he could afford to take care of the person would be if the person working without pay. So both people might desire for the one to be slave to the other. There are a number of complex situations involving slavery. I suspect that in some cases, it's wrong and in some cases it's right. So the fact that there isn't any outright condemnation of slavery in the Bible makes sense. Though Paul does condemn "kidnappers of men," which applies to slavemasters who do what the Portuguese did and steal Africans from their native homes to serve as slaves.
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