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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 12-01-2006 at 04:17 AM. |
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12-01-2006, 06:29 AM | #782 |
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I know this is a sensitive topic, but please refrain from any further personal attacks.
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12-01-2006, 04:53 PM | #783 |
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*applauds hector and gwai for classiness*
edit - AND applauds the friendly neighborhood mod! good point, Jon!
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! Last edited by RÃan : 12-01-2006 at 04:56 PM. |
12-01-2006, 04:54 PM | #784 |
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*applauds the friendly neighbourhood mod*
Poland recently adopted much stricter adoption laws. Maybe we'll soon see fresh new numbers regarding the tendency of women to seek illegal and unsafe abortion procedures.
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12-01-2006, 05:05 PM | #786 | |
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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12-01-2006, 06:43 PM | #787 |
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Man, I hate adoption laws.
It should be easier to adopt a child than get pregnant, but right now if you want a child the easiest way is to have sex with no protection. |
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Now as for the topic at hand: My stance on abortion is this: The women of this country deserve the right to terminate their unwanted pregnancy, no questions asked, legally, and safely. The way our system has been set up and operates currently, needs no change. To overturn Roe VS Wade based upon christian morality and christian idealism would be to spit in the face of everything that this country stands for, and in faces of its people who strive and have striven so hard and for so long to embetter. It would be a sick shame to have a regression happen in this country due to religion and religious bias. Sadly, it appears to be trying to happen, what with stem cell research being halted due to people like Bush who have religious-based reasons for halting scientific and medical progress.
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Do you support partial birth abortion, Lotesse? Why or why not?
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç Ã¥ â„¢ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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I know I'm not a MOD of GM any more, but I'd just like to offer that it might be a good idea for all of the people involved in this thread to remember to that this thread is not here for you to be condescending or to make remarks at other people's expense, but instead to -politely- debate the topic and to respect the fact that every one has a right to their point of view.
You will never change someone's mind by insulting their ideals point blank. Thankees . Last edited by Tessar : 12-02-2006 at 02:33 AM. |
12-02-2006, 03:56 AM | #792 |
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I support abortion in all forms because I believe that humans have to grow a soul like any other creature. Most animals fail to grow souls, but some can.
I believe humans grow souls early, within the first year of life, and they continue building on it all their life. But, if you don't want to get religious about it, a fetus is not a seperate entity. It cannot survive outside the mother. It is not alive. I also support abortion because a woman, young or old, deciding to have a part of her removed because she rationally knows she cannot take care of another life, should not have to be persecuted and put under more strain. Be thoughtful to these women. They are already going through a lot, without the political contriversy. |
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Personally, I'd like to request that people don't do the psycho-babble fake-analysis stuff, except if they have an advanced degree and professional experience in the field. All it does is prevent discussion on the subject - I mean, ANYONE can say ANYONE has fear and jealousy and whatever else they feel like making up. That won't do anything for the discussion. You might as well say everything is a delusion and be done with it. At least if we're talking thoughtfully and civilly about this topic, that's SOME progress. It's better than anger and hate and screaming stuff back and forth.
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I don't want to force my opinion on anyone else... I was just trying to say that some women (and men) should learn from their mistakes and not need abortion 5 or 6 times in a few months time. That isn't healthy for one thing...and sometimes (I forget what the name of the depression is) women get depressed just after aborting a fetus and just want to get pregnant again in an attempt to replace that child. (Now, I'm speaking from, not my personal experience, but one of my friend's personal experiences.) Then realize that it was probably not the best decision to make and have another abortion. I'm not saying that it happens all of the time...or even a majority of the time, I only said that because it is simply how I feel. Please don't drag me into the 'huff and guff' argument. Lotesse, were able to guess my religious view points in former post or the above postion of my post? I am Christian. Nondenominational. Not Catholic...I don't enjoy molesting little boys. ( I promise that was meant as a joke and nothing more. A little friendly poke. Sorry if it offends.) I stated earlier that I disagree with abortion, but refuse to push my beliefs on others, and that's because the point of any form of Christianity is not to bully. It is, rather, to spread the word of God and allow that person the choice to come to him...not pealt someone with religious curses and damn them. That is why refuse to be more vehement about my point of view. That, however, is neither here nor there. Yes, a fetus cannot survive without it's mother. But, does the fetus walk when the mother walks? Talk when mother talks? Kick when mother kicks? Cry when mother cries? I believe that a baby is a seperate entity. Part of the mother, and, yet, not.
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Those points having been cleared up, I won't respond to the rest, as it is only more of what I responded to before; just a lot of condescending fluff, with no substance to it.
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