03-08-2005, 05:01 PM | #61 |
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maybe we'll have King Ozzy I of the house of Osbourne?
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You do propose an ideal scenario, though, which is that Charles steps down voluntarily.
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03-08-2005, 05:25 PM | #63 | |
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These are the reasons you gave for wanting William as king:
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03-08-2005, 05:49 PM | #64 |
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Okay, so you caught me there. Um... those are supplementary justifications! Purely supplementary!
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03-08-2005, 05:51 PM | #65 |
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Hey, I sympathise with them - just not enough to build a constitution on them
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03-09-2005, 03:02 AM | #66 |
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"The big royal wedding is a little over a month away. This is going to be a difficult adjustment for Prince Charles’ fiancee, Camilla. You know, Buckingham Palace is a big change from her old job ringing the bell at Notre Dame." -- Jay Leno
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03-09-2005, 05:58 AM | #67 |
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Soft targets are always the best.
The mere fact that people are discussing whether Charles should be King is an indication that the institution needs to be abolished PDQ. As sun-star says, the whole point about monarchy is that you don't get to choose who's next up: it depends on who dropped out of the royal womb in what order. There are a lot of people, who would ordinarily be royalists, who loathe both Charles and Camilla because of their own Diana fixation. They want William to take the throne because he looks like her and is a nice young man. Once you get royalists thinking like that then the whole basis of monarchy goes down the tubes. |
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No, you don't get to choose who's up based on positive terms, but as in my cited example of Edward VIII, you can certainly eliminate people from the running based on negative criteria. This isn't a matter of "preferring William" as much as it is "not preferring Charles."
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Does everyone know there issuing stamps of the happy couple? I'll be sure to add them to my collection!
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03-10-2005, 04:37 AM | #71 |
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IIRC, Edward abdicated because of the legal problems associated with marrying a divorcee. Several governments (not just the UK) would have had to pass legislation to make the marriage legal. I guess that's where the popular opinion might come in, in that governments are supposed to do what their people want. However, it would seem far better just to directly elect the head of state instead, and then we'd be spared the embarrassment...
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The difference with Edward VIII is that he became king in the usual course of succession and then chose to abdicate. He could very well have decided to remain king (many people were in favour of him doing so, including Churchill IIRC) but the PM Stanley Baldwin recommended that he abdicate. He must have wanted to do it - monarchs are allowed to abdicate at any time, I believe, but they can't be forced to. However, it was not an easy decision and caused rather a lot of angst, so there would have to be very good reasons for it to happen again.
Interestingly, it wasn't British public opinion that Baldwin was worried about, but opinion in... Canada
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03-10-2005, 07:23 AM | #73 |
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damned canucks
i say we just get rid of monarchy and aristocracy all together |
03-23-2005, 05:04 AM | #74 |
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Hear hear!
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04-09-2005, 05:36 PM | #75 |
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well they got married today, apparently she looked nice, i dont care, bloody royals, but i didnt see what the queen of sweden wore, now she always looks nice, for an 8 foot tall, 6 foot wide, viking warrior and Juan Carlos II of Spain always looks nice, wonder whether it was a Gucci or an Armani suit he wore?
BTW, i hear charles is not attending the funeral of Prince Rainier of Monaco! the cheek of it, Prince Rainier was probably the only royal in the world that i did like! |
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Best wishes for both of them
but what a hat!
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i didnt watch it, too busy taping cd's to care about some pair of boring old farts, now ken and deirdre's wedding on 'Coronation Street' last night, that i did watch
my mum said it looked like the Duchess of Cornwall had a dead peasant, ahem pheasant, on her hat, was that true? |
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hey it beats talkin to myself
and Rainier i liked not because he had a pretty dead wife, honest *whistles innocently* and i like talkin about royals, even if i want them removed |
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