01-25-2005, 05:26 PM | #81 |
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I wouldn't really say Radagast was dumb. He was a Maia after all.
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true, it probably was mostly the eagles, I never really liked how Radagast got such a small part, compared to Gandalf and Saruman
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Pytt could be right. Eagles are rather autonomous.
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I never said he was dumb, I just said he was slightly duumber than the ealges. as you say, he is after all a Maia.
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well, if he was only interested in playing with bunny rabbits, why the hek was he sent to stop Sauron!
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After Eru pardons Aule for creating the dwarves too early, and Aule shares his "mistake" with Yavanna, she is releived that it has worked out for good, but tells Aule that since he didn't share the knowledge of the creation of them with her, they will not share her love of plants and animals, and she mourns for all her work. So, she goes to Manwe to see if there is some kind of solution: Quote:
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You could ask why the heck Saruman was sent to stop Sauron as he was just 'playing with orcs' or why were the blue wizards sent. Gandalf was the only one who is said to have completed their task.
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As a continuation of the last quote, and in relation to the Eagles:
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But what were those spirits that were sent?
Anyway... you know... I just had to check to see what thread we were in... Anyone want to hunt up and old thread about the wizards? There's one on the blue ones I know about... So... 'bout them wraiths...
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But perhaps it's as simple as moving your mind to a more British point of view. Kings rule by divine decree. Isildur was the closest thing to a prince of men existing at that time (assuming Elendil hadn't fallen yet).. He didn't actually withold the "gift" of death either... But he did hold them to their oath... which bound them to Arda. They were not free to leave, even in death...
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I think this is from the UT....(the order) I always wonder why they list Radagast second, if Yavanna begged for him to be included. It would seem like he would be listed last But anyway, wasn't he originally kinda a companion to Saruman? Not in the same way that the blue wizards were friends...but, still....Gandalf/Olorin always seems to be kinda a loner, already set apart from the others before their mission begins. |
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Alatar and Saruman were first because they were the only ones to volunteer. Gandalf was chosen by Manwe, after them. (Varda says,by the way, that Gandalf doesn't go as third.. implying he'd be the leader I think) Yavanna did not have to beg, she just asked it from Aule (Saruman is of Aule's Maiar). In another place it's: 1. Saruman, 2. Gandalf, and 3. Radagast, now placed according to their stature in Valinor. |
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How come Aule's Maiar always seem to go bad? Sauron and Saruman were both of Aule's Maiar.
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