Mrs. Grishnahk

Finglas · 11-12-2001, 06:18 PM

Does Tolkien ever mention any female orcs or dwarves?

Comic Book Guy · 11-12-2001, 06:25 PM

There is Mention of female Dwarved in The peoples of Middle Earth, they seldom travelled abroad except in urgency. Gimli said once that it was hard for other races to tell the Male and Female dwarves apart because they both had beards from the day they were born. I've never heard of female orcs, but there is evidence of Father-son relationships between orcs.

Ñólendil · 11-12-2001, 06:48 PM

There is one Dwarf-woman named, too, Dis, sister of Thorin (and mother to Fili and Kili). In The Silmarillion it is said that Orcs reproduced after the manner of Men, so there must have been women.

Agburanar · 11-13-2001, 05:27 AM

Who knows what orcs get up to? They were corrupted elves so presumably there were females as well, unless they were elves captured in battle, you don't hear a lot about female elf warriors.

Kirinki54 · 11-13-2001, 05:29 AM

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Originally posted by Inoldonil
There is one Dwarf-woman named, too, Dis, sister of Thorin (and mother to Fili and Kili).

There is a nice and very readable section on Dwarves in LotR Appendixes A III DURIN´S FOLK.

It says on Dis "She is the only dwarf-woman named in these histories." (Which I construe also to relate to the Sil.)

Elentári · 11-23-2001, 09:06 PM

wow...i'd hate to have a beard for my whole life...

oh and btw, i'm new....sorta. i've been here before but under another sn and a loooong time ago (mebbe a few months or so).

*~*Elentári*~*

Ñólendil · 11-24-2001, 04:49 PM

What was your name a few months ago?

Welcome back!

ArwenEvenstar · 11-25-2001, 04:37 PM

ewww that would be gross to be female and have a beard

Wayfarer · 11-25-2001, 04:52 PM

I don't know... I could stand a bearded female, as long a she was well groomed and sufficient in other respects.

fireworks19 · 11-26-2001, 12:06 PM

I think we had a discussion about this a really long time ago, back when I was the Arwen around here....(ahem...NAME STEALER!

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I wasn't really smart then, so I didn't get most of it. I think there would have to be females, logically...but, then again, they were mentioned. Was Tolkien a bit of a sexist or was he just being true to the medevil-type mindset?

11-12-2001, 06:18 PM	#1
Finglas Enting Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: here, there, everywhere Posts: 88	Mrs. Grishnahk Does Tolkien ever mention any female orcs or dwarves?

11-12-2001, 06:48 PM	#3
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	There is one Dwarf-woman named, too, Dis, sister of Thorin (and mother to Fili and Kili). In The Silmarillion it is said that Orcs reproduced after the manner of Men, so there must have been women. __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

11-24-2001, 04:49 PM	#7
Ñólendil Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: California Posts: 60,865	What was your name a few months ago? Welcome back! __________________ Falmon -- Dylan

11-25-2001, 04:37 PM	#8
ArwenEvenstar Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: and why do YOU want to know? Posts: 685	NASTY ewww that would be gross to be female and have a beard __________________ The only thing active about me is my imagination!

11-25-2001, 04:52 PM	#9
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	I don't know... I could stand a bearded female, as long a she was well groomed and sufficient in other respects. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

11-12-2001, 06:25 PM	#2
Comic Book Guy Best Ex-Administrator ever Join Date: May 2001 Location: Ireland Posts: 60,547	There is Mention of female Dwarved in The peoples of Middle Earth, they seldom travelled abroad except in urgency. Gimli said once that it was hard for other races to tell the Male and Female dwarves apart because they both had beards from the day they were born. I've never heard of female orcs, but there is evidence of Father-son relationships between orcs.

11-13-2001, 05:27 AM	#4
Agburanar Elf Lord Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: Dorset Posts: 608	Who knows what orcs get up to? They were corrupted elves so presumably there were females as well, unless they were elves captured in battle, you don't hear a lot about female elf warriors.

11-23-2001, 09:06 PM	#6
Elentári Sapling Join Date: Nov 2001 Posts: 6	wow...i'd hate to have a beard for my whole life... oh and btw, i'm new....sorta. i've been here before but under another sn and a loooong time ago (mebbe a few months or so). ~Elentári~

11-26-2001, 12:06 PM	#10
fireworks19 Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Indiana Posts: 156	I think we had a discussion about this a really long time ago, back when I was the Arwen around here....(ahem...NAME STEALER! ) I wasn't really smart then, so I didn't get most of it. I think there would have to be females, logically...but, then again, they were mentioned. Was Tolkien a bit of a sexist or was he just being true to the medevil-type mindset? __________________ Just Watch the Fireworks Just Meet Fireworks =)