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Radagast - as Valandil pointed out - he was general - but he was in charge of the armies. I had never heard of field marshall being used in terms of any American Army not even during the Revolution. We had General Washinton, General Lee, General Benedict Arnold and several others. But Washington was the commander of the Revolutionary armies and over all the other generals (but he was not a five star). Here is the thing about the painting of "Washington Crossing the Delaware" as it is explained in "Washington Crossing" the book. Quote:
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Washington was, I believe, a 3 star general (Lt. Gen), but every time they invent a new rank they posthumously give him a new star so he is the most senior General of the Armies at the moment.
Grant was the 2nd Lt. General, then I believe John Pershing in WWI, then in WWII they had to expand up to Gen of Armies. There were about 5 IIRC
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If I read this article correctly, GW was a three star general.
http://www.angelfire.com/tx4/busters...ITRIVIA41.html Also, a worse travesty then the "Crossing" movie cited above (which I thought was adequate with acceptably minimum historical inaccuracies) don't see, if you haven't, Mel Gibson's "The Patriot." Incredible distorting and imaginary misrendering of the American/British Rev. conflict in the South, a laughable misrepresentation of the Battle of the Cowpens, a picture of African-Americans in the South bordering on fantasy, etc. Just to give one example, Tartleton served in the British parliament after the war, so could hardly have been killed during it.
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According to Naval Historic Center - Washington did not use stars until 1798.
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BTW - I'm looking at what he would have been called back then - not what the position may have turned into today or be called today. Currently there is no General over all the armies of the US - which is what he was. To say he was Lieutenant General or a 3-star general during the revolution is rather misleading, because those positions today don't carry the power that he had. Quote:
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Yes, I see what you're saying about the three stars. Perhaps what seems to be almost a tradition of attributing three stars to GW is a "shorthand" way of getting across his position in the Rev. Army to a general readership without having to go into detail. If so, I suppose arguably understandable.
_________________________________ Also, for anyone like Valandil who might bring sons east someday on a Rev. War themed vacation, Barndywine Battlefield and Germantown make an interesting, and close, battlefields tour. They actually illustrate some of Washington's strengths and weaknesses. Strategically Washington had sound concepts at both places, but also made tactical errors at both. On Germantown Avenue you can visit the Chew House (Cliveden) where he wasted time trying to take it instead of advancing. (Cliveden also has a great outdoor jazz festival on the grounds each summer:cool).
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I was going to ask - with people being interested in Revolutionary War stuff - I was wondering if you can check out the "Princeton Battlefield Area Preservation Society" website and maybe sign our petition.
I have to work on this website. I have stuff done but the form isn't posted for signing up for membership. [EDIT: Form is now posted] I'm going to get it up there - if you want you can print out the form and become a member or you can sign our petition. We're trying to prevent The Institute of Advanced Study at Princeton University from building faculaty housing - right up agains the battlefield. In actuality - they will be building on the battlefield - but the state never aquired that property - we are now trying to prevent the building on that land and to get control of it somehow. BTW - the picture on the main page of our website is of Cowpens - not Princeton. There was A LOT of disagreement with using the picture - but several of us felt we needed an action oriented, bright colored picture that represented the Battle of Princeton relatively well. We coudn't find any. The Battle of Princeton took place on an orchard and farmland - not woods.
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