03-16-2004, 10:01 PM | #41 |
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Another thing -
You might find it interesting to think about - bin Ladin didn't care one single bit about Iraq and Hussein before the UN invasion, didn't care about the people - you really think they really care about them now? People seriously need to get their heads out of the sand.
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03-16-2004, 10:15 PM | #43 |
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Oooh, I wonder what the record is for the amount of ' ' JD's used in his posts?
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By the way - to let everyone know - it was NOT the Kurds that were desimated by the Republican Guard and who were tryign to get to overthrow Hussein and who we "abandoned" - it was the Shia's in the south. That is why when the war started and even today - they question the US.
As punishment for their uprising - Hussein mascred many many Shia's and even damned up the rivers to dry out the wetlands as punishment (this region is felt to be the biblical home to the Garden of Eden). We have destroyed many of the and the people are returning and the wetlands are being restored.
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But it is true that the violence in the Middle East has been going on for centuries. This is a fact that Britain either ignored or forgot when it arbitrarily created the modern Middle East. This is why the Kurds are divided between three nations, Iraq has three different groups who can't stand each other, and why there is so many problems in Kashmir.
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03-16-2004, 10:34 PM | #47 |
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It's about time you got your butt back here. Welcome back JD!!!
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I find it funny how this person has come to a Tolkien board, posted three times and it is only in this thread which they started. I'm curious if it's an actual member who wanted to discuss this - without these posts reflecting on their "everyday" name.
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To read the full pdf report see - ABC NEWS POLL: IRAQ – WHERE THINGS STAND Here is the ABC summary... Quote:
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In addition - it is a minority of Arabs that don't like those things. It's what's termed the "vocal minority" and that is what the fanatical clerics are. Take a look at Iran - the only way the clerics could retain power and prevent change was by outlawing all of the reformists. Why? Becuase they knew the people supported the very things you say they hate. But who hates it? The few powerful clerics and their underlings, that is all. Aslo - it hasn't been 30 years that they have been living in the modern world. They have been exposed to the modern world since the time Britain reshaped the Middle East during WWI. Quote:
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03-17-2004, 07:07 AM | #53 |
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As usual JD a completally blinkred responce. Yes McDoanalds will be run by Arabs in Arab countrys but there is nothing destictaly Islamic or Asaian about Mc Doanalds what do you expect them to make a Mc Saudi sandwhich? The companys (and i state the companys because it is the companys) mite not be holding a gun to there head and forceing them but they are influencing them as they try to influence every single one of us a point i dont think should be overlooked (it certinally hasnt been by the terrorists)
Of course its not a majority that thinks this most young Arabs probably dont care infact they probably want to wear nice clothes drive fast cars and drink pepsi (hell they aint allowed to drink alchol so they must be gagging for something) but my point is that these things are weston in there nature. America has a huge effect over the culture of this country in terms of fashion and music and young people. Half the programs on our tele are american. Now this does not bother me but you cannot say that america does not have a social influence around the world through its media. This i believe was one of the main initial reason for Al Quedas attacks plus all the political reason. The terrorist like to rule by ignorance, the west is evil etc but what media does is show no the west isnt evil its free and people would want this. That is why they hate america so much because by been the free nation you are everything that they dont want there people to be. Now unfortintally you have played right into there propagander hands you have acted like the world bullys that they would have you seen as infact you have played right into there hands. If i was you i would work on showing that you dont want to rule and how should i put this a slightly less biased outlook on life i am still waiting for an american to say you know what i can kinda see why they mite not like us instead of they are all crazy terrorist relgious extremists
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hell mate. that was quite a largish post(s). Do you feel better now?
Maybe if you keep denying that the US has not subverted other governments, you'll even convince yourself...
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Go ahead - blame on it on America all you want - we're used to it. We will save your asses like we always do obviously as Europe sticks their head in the sand - hoping for the problem to go away. Europe seems to have a perpetual "Speak no evil, hear no evil, see no evil".
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