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that is the first i've ever heard that - why not use that whenever anyone said that jeuss didn't exist?
That I know of , only one account of him outside of the bible. You know, Jesus was a very common name back then , its not like there was only one jesus during that time
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there was no one called jesus in those days (or joshua either) the letter J was only added to the modern alphabet about 400 yrs ago
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she was saying that what the germans did was bad, and people dont usually persecute them for their history; and so why should we blame jews alone as the sole persecuters of christ? you're just looking at the wrong way.
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why care if it leads people to being anti semitic? its not your place (or anyone's) to tell people what they watch, just because of your opinions. this is where the germans and the jew comparison comes in again; people didnt kill germans because of the way they were portrayed in Schindler's List. and anyway, who cares if people hate you for being jewish and supposedly killing christ? paying attention to it is just going to fuel the fire.
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The comparison, as I said, is stupid: There are no "anti-germans", that stand for - killing all German, because they are German and killed millions of Jews. While there are Christians that were "anti-semitic", and others that will become so, that believe in killing all Jews partly because they killed Jesus 2000 years ago. About the last part of your post - I'd suggest you to read GrayMouser's post. |
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If you can't find any proof for it on the internet then it isn't very compelling evicence, now is it?
Saying that Germans should be portrayed as bad for killing millions upon millions of people is the same thing as jewish people being portrayed as bad for possbly killed jesus (if he even existed and if they were the sole ppl behind his death). There is actual proof of what the germans did - documented with documents, photos, video. There are holocaust survivors still alive today. Fact is, we are certain of what happened at the germans exterminated about 10 million people. Yes, they should be portrayed as bad for that. Hating Germans now is silly though - mostly all the officers and people that were responsible are all dead or too old to really matter. On the other hand, if jesus did exist, he was jewish himself and had many jewish supporters. I don't know all the details of how "the jews killed him," but it certainly was only a small group of people behind it Besides, as I said it sparked the whole relgion - his dying and all. Hating all Jews 2000 years later is very silly for events that may or may not have occurred.
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a lot of people are racist. thats a fact. people deal with it everyday, so why make a big deal of the supposed "anti semitism" in gibson's movie when racism is so common everyday? and adolf was quite a silly fellow. quite laughable, along with Napolean. another reason I like Berlioz (as opposed to Wagner-who is Berlioz' rival, and who was the role model for Hitler- , who was very anti semitic), Berlioz was always kind and gentlemanly to people from other cultures. and Radagast: I think I can imagine how you feel, but really, anti semitism didnt spring from this movie and its makers; it sprung from the reckless souls of idiots. you cant control what they say and think. anti semitism has been going on for a long time...
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Radagast isn't saying that anti-semitism sprung from this movie (that only came out this year). Obviously it didn't.
What radagast is saying is that it is sparking some new waves of anti-semitism, which it partly is. Even after talking to my friends about the movie I can see this. One exclaimed that after she walked out of the movie she thought "wow, now I hate the jews for killing jesus" There is a new wave of "jews killed jesus" This isn't anything new, but the movie is sparking some old hatreds. This isn't a majority of the people seeing it, but any new anti-semites is not a good thing.
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all kinds of prejudices exist... catholic/jewish... muslim/jewish... catholic/muslim... etc.
movies like this don't make "new" racists... they just bring out the true colors that still exist in our world i don't think you can quantify one ethnic tragedy over another simply by counting who has been wronged more... and in fact, one could argue that these very kind of tallies add to the fire every ethnic group has been wronged at some point in history... and they will continue to be until people are able to leave blame where it belongs... in the past
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but you cant control it, so its better to ignore stupid stuf like that woman's comment.
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I finally saw this movie and... wow. I have not the words. I've seen happier people leaving a funeral. This is the most powerful movie I've ever seen. Intense.
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