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Now let us please get this back on track because im not going down this road again. This is a very important issue for many Europeans (and if its not you need to find out about it) so please JD refrain form taking this thread to your own uses. As for the European union i think it is important that we all draw close together and try and promote co-operation the euro is a tool to which this is made easier. I know for my job it would make things a hell of a lot easier but i fear it will never be accepted in this country
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I grow mayorly tired of hearing things in the spirit of: "Europe's uniting, bah humbug. We done it ages ago and so much better. We taught Europe everything they know." I know America was first in uniting but we're doing it NOW and are experiencing it pretty much first hand. Quote:
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It was quite a revelation going on holiday and finding you didn't have to bother anymore with courses and foreign money and sorts. Though the adaption for shop-keepers and the like was far from easy.
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I'll make sure I don't post into this "euro-only" thread. Maybe from now on we should have European threads and American threads - that way you guys can constantly bash us and call us ignorant Americans - while refusing to leanr our history and we can stay on our side so we don't get on your nerves. Quote:
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By the way - you seem to not notice that my post was DIRECTED to Linaewen. That is what the "Linaewen-" meant at the beginning of the post.
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What do you think it was a kingdom in the the Europe of the 15th and 16th century? It was not an absolute monarchy. Peolpes had their laws. In Spain they were called "fueros" and were very similar to what later became a liberal Constitution. What the US added was the "liberal" inspiration, not the substance of a Constitution.
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As for your history comment - we DO have history - but we don't learn every little bit of histoy about every country. Do you learn the details of our civil war or our revolution? If no - then don't expect us to know about the history of 16th century Spain.
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Ok, I think JD has made his point so let us leave the America subject.
The votes are being counted. The first results show a small lead for the 'No' side, but one shouldn't start cheering or mourning yet. In Estonia, the preliminary results show a huge lead for the 'Yes' side, 70% have voted yes among the first 20% of the votes.
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How has the campaign been played out in Sweden? I know if it got put to a referendum here there would be a lot of exgeration from the 'vote no' side of things. I hear stuff like we would lose the queens head (a debatiable loss) but thats not the case as far as im led to believe each country gets to chose the images for one side of its euros if im wrong please correct me. Also people seem to think that tax rates etc would be set by the European central bank.
Im not sure if i would want it to vote in this country as bizzare as this sounds i feel its far too important an issue to decided by the whole country. i say this because the ignorance that sourounds this issue and how easy it would be for the 'No' side to mislead people! now now Ruinel im sure ur much more clever than you think you are at least you dont prenend to know what your on about
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The votes have been counted and the No side won a landslide victory. 56,2% No and 41,8% Yes and 1% blank votes. About 80% of the people voted i.e. about five and a half million.
If there is a second referendum, it is expected to take place in 2015. On the plus side though; Estonia is joining the EU. 67% of the Estonians voted 'Yes'
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I'm sad for the results of the votes. Perhaps this was not the best momment to set the referendum. I think that several countries of the Euro-zone would say "no" if consulted these days. The policies of deficit that we're seeing in many countries are proof of that they're not convinced of the basis of the Euro.
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Well, it's a pity. Hopefully Sweden decides otherwise in 2015. That's a very long time, why did they put a second referendum so far in the future?
Jonathan, I'm wondering, how many information did you get about the effects of the euro? I'm thinking, if you put such a decision into the hands of the public, surely they should have some knowledge of what they're voting for or against. I'm just asking because Belgium didn't organise a referendum, so I don't know how it's like.
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Apprentally in this country we are gonna have a vote as soon as our economys are in line! seems the sensiable thing to do
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I'm sorry that the majority of the Swedes said no. But at least they're part of the EU. In Norway we've had 2 referendums about joining the EU or not, and the majority voted no both times.
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