Favorite Elf-King? - Page 10

Ruinel · 03-21-2003, 08:35 PM

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Originally posted by Melko Belcha
I like Turgon best. He made a mistake for not fleeing the city, but he loved and respected his people. Most Elves in the city probably would not be willing to leave, and Turgon did not want to force them. He found the valley and brought his people there to keep them safe from the evil outside, to let them live in peace. I have always seen Turgon as the type of king that would know the name of every person in the city, or sit down in the middle of the road and play a game with a group of kids. Someone who truely knew his peoples hearts, and minds.

Yes, maybe if Idril Celebrindal had loved Maeglin and not Tuor perhaps he wouldn't have been caught so far from the city by Orcs and tortured. Maeglin should have died rather than given up Gondolin to Melkor *grrrrr*

(atypical Elf who became evil). But Tuor and Celebrindal got many of the people out through the secret way. And Maeglin got what he deserved.

snowmane · 03-23-2003, 04:04 PM

i agree-turgon was cool!

do u also notice that he didnt stick his nose up at tuor??
gooooo turgon!
also good leader....he was protecting his whole people by keeping gondolin secret....then maeglin goes and wrecks it all cause he fancies his cousin??shame,shame!

kinda freaky that his dad and him fell da same place...but of course his dad sed he was gonna do that!

well, anyway.....agreeing with turgon!!

Radagast The Brown · 03-23-2003, 04:39 PM

Could be, but Turgon forgot (ignored?) what Ulmo said - that the secret of Gondlin won't will be discovered, and that Turgon have to be prepared.

Ragnarok · 03-23-2003, 06:05 PM

Fingolfin

Inderjit Sanghera · 03-24-2003, 06:44 PM

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Could be, but Turgon forgot (ignored?) what Ulmo said - that the secret of Gondlin won't will be discovered, and that Turgon have to be prepared

He knew allright. The stupid idiot was more concerned about his jewels. Plus he hated the Feanorians.

If he wasn't 8 odd foot tall I'd punch him...ah well, I could always kick him in the er...crown jewels...

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-24-2003, 06:49 PM

Yeesh, that's tall!

Are you sure you can kick that high?

BTW, where'd you get the number?

Inderjit Sanghera · 03-24-2003, 07:07 PM

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BTW, where'd you get the number?

Elendil 7"11, Tuor even taller, Turgon EVEN TALLER, Argon EVEN TALLER and then we come to Elwe...

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-24-2003, 07:15 PM

Elendil was 7'11"?

Tuor taller than Elendil? I always had the impression that the Numenoreans/Dunedain were taller than other Men.

Inderjit Sanghera · 03-25-2003, 04:58 AM

The Edain and Noldor were said to average 7 feet. The Numenoreans, in the days of their 'declining' 6 foot 4.

Melkor's significant othe · 03-25-2003, 08:51 AM

Ind S: Who's Argon ? Aragorn wouldn't have been that tall. I always pictured the Numenoreans as being taller than any eldar. Maybe the Noldor were v.tall (Fingolfin I bet was a v.tall) but I'm open to suggestions and/or facts.

Gwaimir Windgem · 03-25-2003, 10:49 AM

Argon was a Noldorin prince, who did not survive the crossing of the Helcaraxe, I think.

Inderjit Sanghera · 03-25-2003, 12:43 PM

Argon was the youngest son of Fingolfin. His Quenyarin name was Arakano, he was named after his father and it can be interpretated as 'Commander'. (The sons of Fingfolfin sure liked hte 'Kano'- prefix). He was slain in a battle in Lammoth, after striking down a Orc chieftain. His character was a rather late developement and first came into existence in the 'Shibboleth of Feanor, HoME 12.

Him not surviving the crossing of the Helkaraxe was a ephermal idea.

Melkor's significant othe · 03-26-2003, 04:35 AM

Thankyou. You learn something new everyday!

Artanis · 03-26-2003, 04:39 AM

I vote for Turgon.

Linaewen · 03-27-2003, 07:52 AM

So do I. Both Finrod Felagund & Turgon

Linaewen · 03-27-2003, 04:33 PM

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So do I. Both Finrod Fingolfin & Turgon

Sorry about that. Got a bit confused with all the names beginning with F. I meant Finrod Felagund and Turgon

Ruinel · 03-27-2003, 05:16 PM

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Originally posted by Linaewen
Sorry about that. Got a bit confused with all the names beginning with F. I meant Finrod Felagund and Turgon

You are forgiven.

gandalfstormcrow · 04-01-2003, 08:00 PM

Favorite Elf-King is Thingol.

Anglorfin · 04-18-2003, 11:35 PM

As Turgon is my favorite Elf he is by default my favorite Elven King. The whole concept of Gondolin was cool and even though in the end he seemed to forget about the warnings of Ulmo he still held his people together the longest in the meantime. Also from Gondolin many beautiful and lasting things came. Numenorean kings can be traced back to the house of Turgon, as can Elrond and his offspring. Glamdring (my favorite sword) was made for Turgon. He basically commanded his city very well until the end. Maeglin gave the location away and finally Turgon's Noldorian pride caught up with him and he didn't want to leave, but who could blame him for that.

Ruinel · 04-19-2003, 06:04 PM

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Originally posted by gandalfstormcrow
Favorite Elf-King is Thingol.

Oh, good heavens!!! What are you thinking?!

Anglorfin: I agree Turgon was a great king. The whole concept of a hidden city was a great defense. Well, until it wasn't hidden anymore. Maeglin *spits on ground* was a rat!!

03-23-2003, 04:04 PM	#182
snowmane Hobbit Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 23	i agree-turgon was cool! do u also notice that he didnt stick his nose up at tuor?? gooooo turgon! also good leader....he was protecting his whole people by keeping gondolin secret....then maeglin goes and wrecks it all cause he fancies his cousin??shame,shame! kinda freaky that his dad and him fell da same place...but of course his dad sed he was gonna do that! well, anyway.....agreeing with turgon!! __________________ faithful servant yet master's bane, lighfoot's foal, swift snowmane..

03-23-2003, 04:39 PM	#183
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	Could be, but Turgon forgot (ignored?) what Ulmo said - that the secret of Gondlin won't will be discovered, and that Turgon have to be prepared. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

03-24-2003, 06:49 PM	#186
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Yeesh, that's tall! Are you sure you can kick that high? BTW, where'd you get the number? __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-24-2003, 07:15 PM	#188
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Elendil was 7'11"? Tuor taller than Elendil? I always had the impression that the Numenoreans/Dunedain were taller than other Men. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-25-2003, 10:49 AM	#191
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	Argon was a Noldorin prince, who did not survive the crossing of the Helcaraxe, I think. __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

03-23-2003, 06:05 PM	#184
Ragnarok Rohirrim Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: PA Posts: 590	Fingolfin

03-25-2003, 04:58 AM	#189
Inderjit Sanghera Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England. Posts: 260	The Edain and Noldor were said to average 7 feet. The Numenoreans, in the days of their 'declining' 6 foot 4.

03-25-2003, 08:51 AM	#190
Melkor's significant othe Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: UK, Manchester Posts: 40	Ind S: Who's Argon ? Aragorn wouldn't have been that tall. I always pictured the Numenoreans as being taller than any eldar. Maybe the Noldor were v.tall (Fingolfin I bet was a v.tall) but I'm open to suggestions and/or facts.

03-25-2003, 12:43 PM	#192
Inderjit Sanghera Elven Warrior Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Wolverhampton, England. Posts: 260	Argon was the youngest son of Fingolfin. His Quenyarin name was Arakano, he was named after his father and it can be interpretated as 'Commander'. (The sons of Fingfolfin sure liked hte 'Kano'- prefix). He was slain in a battle in Lammoth, after striking down a Orc chieftain. His character was a rather late developement and first came into existence in the 'Shibboleth of Feanor, HoME 12. Him not surviving the crossing of the Helkaraxe was a ephermal idea.

03-26-2003, 04:35 AM	#193
Melkor's significant othe Hobbit Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: UK, Manchester Posts: 40	Thankyou. You learn something new everyday!

03-26-2003, 04:39 AM	#194
Artanis Greatest Elven woman of Aman Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Having way too much fun with Fëanor's 7 Posts: 4,285	I vote for Turgon. __________________ --Life is hard, and then we die.

03-27-2003, 07:52 AM	#195
Linaewen Fair Dinkum Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Houston, TX Posts: 2,319	So do I. Both Finrod Felagund & Turgon Last edited by Linaewen : 05-26-2003 at 04:43 AM.

04-01-2003, 08:00 PM	#198
gandalfstormcrow Enting Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Ridding Middle Earth of Sauron before bedtime. Posts: 58	Favorite Elf-King is Thingol.

04-18-2003, 11:35 PM	#199
Anglorfin Alasailon Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: college Posts: 861	As Turgon is my favorite Elf he is by default my favorite Elven King. The whole concept of Gondolin was cool and even though in the end he seemed to forget about the warnings of Ulmo he still held his people together the longest in the meantime. Also from Gondolin many beautiful and lasting things came. Numenorean kings can be traced back to the house of Turgon, as can Elrond and his offspring. Glamdring (my favorite sword) was made for Turgon. He basically commanded his city very well until the end. Maeglin gave the location away and finally Turgon's Noldorian pride caught up with him and he didn't want to leave, but who could blame him for that. __________________ "and then this hobbit was walking, and then this elf jumped out of a bush and totally flipped out on him while wailing on his guitar." "Anglorfin was tall and straight; his hair was of shining gold, his face fair and young and fearless and full of anger; his eyes were bright and keen, and his voice like music; on his brow sat wisdom, and in his hand was great skill."

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