01-23-2003, 12:30 PM | #1 |
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THE Gandalf MYSTERy
Does ne one know where he comes from. It's too mysterious--his origin. Too mysty a charachter he is.
So where does he come from? How old is he?
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01-23-2003, 12:44 PM | #2 |
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Gandalf comes from Valinor. He is a Maia of Manwe the head Vala. Gandalf's name in Valinor was Olorin
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O thanks. Mystery solved in 1 line.
*game over, the thread shud be closed now*
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01-23-2003, 01:51 PM | #4 |
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In order to confuse congressmn, I will say that Gandalf came from the Timeless Halls of Eru. Additionally, I will say that Gandalf came from a part of Ilúvatar's mind. Yay!
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01-23-2003, 02:11 PM | #5 |
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o good one. You really confused me now.
*Shud remain open now, mystery not yet solved*
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01-23-2003, 02:19 PM | #6 |
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Well, in the Silmarillon it points out that all of the Valar and Maiar (collective term = Ainur) came originally from Eru Illuvatar.
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I will add that Saruman, Radagast and the Blue Wizards came from the same origins.
He was "born" before the world was created, so there is no real way to say how old he is.
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01-23-2003, 06:44 PM | #9 |
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I always thought it was the Valar that were actually directly created by Iluvatar. And that when they "sang" their music created other spirits such as the maiar. Am I off base here?
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01-23-2003, 06:59 PM | #10 |
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Gandalf is my grandmother. She is so senile sometimes...
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01-23-2003, 07:06 PM | #11 |
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Yes.
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Gandalf is an Istari. Istari is the order of Wizards, the Maiar who came to Middle-Earth a thousand years after the beginning of the Third age. There are five known Istari. They are Olórin (Gandalf), Curumo (Saruman), Radagast, Alatar and Pallando.
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A funny thing about the Wizard is that they all have colours associated to them.
We have Gandalf the grey, Saruman the white, Radagast the brown and Alatar and Pallando, the blue wizards.
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*whimpers softly*
Ok, ok, I believe you, just...please don't beat me!
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01-27-2003, 09:05 PM | #18 |
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but how old is he?
probably like 800 years old or sometin'?
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01-27-2003, 09:23 PM | #19 |
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Is that how old he is?
Oh, and how old is he. does it tell, how do u know?
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He is older than Middle-Earth. He's been in Aman for a LOOOOONG time, no doubt. He's been in Middle-Earth for about 2000 years.
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