01-07-2003, 12:11 AM | #1 |
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Unsung Stories
What about the things Tolkien only hinted at in The Silmarillion?
While reading "Of Beren and Luthien", the short passage about Gorlim and Eilinel struck me fairly hard. The fact that Gorlim would not give up his Lord to be released from torture, but only to be reunited with his beloved wife hits me hard, but there isn't anything else written about them. What are your favorite "unsung stories"?
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01-07-2003, 06:18 PM | #2 |
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Not in the Sil, but in RoTK - the guys that lead their archers up close to shoot at the eyes of the mumakil (who were causing great damage) in the battle of the Pelennor Fields - they knew they would probably be trampled to death, but they went anyway and did a great service to their side.
I'll have to think about the Sil...
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01-07-2003, 09:34 PM | #3 |
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I think the fifth battle. Think of all the tragedies involved in that.
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03-26-2003, 11:56 PM | #4 |
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The unsung story i am most interested in is one that is talked about, but not alot is about Eol and his life
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My own favorit are the later partes of Tal-Elmar. That story was a realy good start for more about the Second Age in Middle-Earth. And also the remarks at the end are very promissing. But Alas! It was never completed. Respectfully Findegil Last edited by Findegil : 03-27-2003 at 04:05 PM. |
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03-27-2003, 04:42 PM | #6 |
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I too loved 'tal-Emar' and I really wished Tolkien had finished it. But I'd much rather he finished the Quenta Silmarillion, with the latter revisions.
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03-27-2003, 04:48 PM | #7 |
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Tolkien has given us the history of ME from lots of points of view, but never from Cirdan's point of view. how did he see things, he that have seen so many things past?
perhaps his story had seen the story of his love to the sea...
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03-27-2003, 04:59 PM | #8 |
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It's a small thing but ... I've often wondered what became of Nellas after Túrin left Doriath.
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03-28-2003, 10:59 AM | #9 |
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Galadriel's return to Aman and the reuniting with her family.
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03-28-2003, 09:20 PM | #10 |
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It got bumped!
Oi...I'll have to read that before I begin my fan fic on it then...well, go further into it than I have, anyway. I have, since posting this, heard that other versions of the story say that Gorlim sought Sauron, but I don't think I like that version as well.
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I also would have liked Tolkien to create a more complete and final version of Celebrimor's story. There was also a hint in UT about a possible attraction to Galadriel, I wish he would have gotten in to that and especially into Celebrimbor's early history. One more, the adventures and travellings of Elladan and Elrohir. Some interesting stuff must have happened. Elrond was wrought with great sorrow because of the passing of Celebrian. I wish Tolkien elaborated on the whole story of Celebrian and her sons.
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04-18-2003, 11:48 PM | #12 |
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I would also like to know about the Avari that remained by the waters of Cuivienen.
Did they build a settlement? Did they migrate somewhere else? Was there any still left at the time of the War of the Ring?
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Tolkien also comments on the integration of Nelyarin (pre-Teleri)Avari into several Silvan kingdoms in the S.A such as Lothlorien, under the rule of Amdir-Malgalad and Greenwood under the rule of Oropher. |
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04-19-2003, 02:24 PM | #14 |
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Thank You Inderjit Sanghera, but I have already read all that, but there still is nothing really known about the Avari after the begining of the Great March. I'm just real curious about the far East of ME ever since I read that small bit in the BoLT of the Elf finding Men asleep. There is no proof, but I do feel there was probably still settlements in the Far East even into the Fourth Age, Elves who knew nothing of the Valar, the War of Wrath, or the War of the Ring. I imagine them living to the east of the Easterlings. Like I said I have no proof on it, but I like the idea.
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04-22-2003, 12:03 PM | #15 |
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Cirdan was there from the beginning-the revolt at least- until the grey ship. He did so much but was so little recognized. He held Narya, he stood by Gil-Galad at the Last Alliance. And he was an elf with a long beard . We need to hear more about Cirdan's life.
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04-22-2003, 01:17 PM | #16 |
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HoME 12; Last Writings has some info. on the wisest being in M-E-Cirdan.
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04-22-2003, 02:51 PM | #17 |
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I should really get my hands on HoME
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