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Old 11-30-2002, 04:41 PM   #1
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Sam Gamgee Question about Legolas

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In the lil prologue thing in fotr in the battle there is an elf that looks a lot like legolas. Has anyone else noticed this? I think its just before Sauron comes out. Am I the only one who sees this guy?? lol
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Old 11-30-2002, 06:07 PM   #2
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Yes I saw that too!!!!! I thought maybe it was Thranduil because PJ wouldn't have mad it Legolas becaus ehe sees him as 2931 and that would mean he was born after Isildur took the ring from Sauron. Most of the blond elves look alike though so it could just be coincidence. Mx
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Old 11-30-2002, 11:00 PM   #3
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i wonder....

do you think he might have put orlando in there thinking no one would notice?
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Old 12-01-2002, 01:15 AM   #4
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I didn't notice, I'll go watch the movie and see.
Yippee! I get to see the movie again!
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Old 12-01-2002, 08:48 AM   #5
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Listening to the actors' commentary included with the extended edition, they state very clearly that the technique of filming characters in "several places at once" as it were, is a PJ stamp... Check the scene where Frodo and co are dancing in the Bilbo's birthday party scene - Pippin appears carrying the cake, and then a moment later we see him in the background, playing in the band!

It would not surprise me if he got Orlando Bloom into the first Isildur/Elendil/Sauron scene for exactly this reason.
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Old 12-01-2002, 01:17 PM   #6
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they do that and I didn't notice! how blind am i?!

I'll have to whatch it again!
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Old 12-15-2002, 11:40 AM   #7
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Old 12-15-2002, 10:30 PM   #8
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It would most likely be Thranduil (Legolas’s father), even if it was Orlando, PJ most likely meant it to be Thranduil since father and son would have similar features.

Quick question or may I say just some thoughts on that first scene

It would have been so cool if we saw Gil-galad hand Elrond the ‘ring of air’ or at least his army to Elronds care. Could you imagine how awesome it would have been to see Gil-galad fight Sauron one on one with Elendil running up to take Gil-galads place when he had fallen. Then having Elendil give Sauron his mortal wound and Sauron burning . . . well I’m getting ahead of myself, I’m sure you all know the story and the way it goes.

Heres the question: Why did PJ alter Tolkien’s vision of the last alliance?

(The beginning scene is still cool in its imagery and story (and easier to understand in such a short time space))
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Old 01-14-2003, 10:34 PM   #9
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i never noticed that either...
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Old 01-14-2003, 10:37 PM   #10
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I noticed that, and thought it might be Orlando, but I dont think it is anymore. Yeah I think it might be Thranduil. Pj put Gil-galad in for a split second apparently, but I didnt notice until I watched the credits.
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Old 01-15-2003, 02:42 PM   #11
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Heres the question: Why did PJ alter Tolkien’s vision of the last alliance?
easier to understand in such a short time space
You've just answered your own question
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Old 01-15-2003, 04:52 PM   #12
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I noticed that, and thought it might be Orlando, but I dont think it is anymore. Yeah I think it might be Thranduil. Pj put Gil-galad in for a split second apparently, but I didnt notice until I watched the credits.
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Where? I never saw him... never watched all of credits either, though I did listen to the music in the theater!
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Old 01-15-2003, 04:56 PM   #13
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that elf could very well be orlando bloom, but something about that particular elf makes it seem that it really isnt orlando bloom...
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Old 01-15-2003, 06:58 PM   #14
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At first I thought it was Legolas, but then I thought no its just another guy with with a blonde wig. I don't know though. Maybe it is Orlando after all.
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Old 01-15-2003, 07:00 PM   #15
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yeah i saw that too and they probilly just put him there for more people!
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Old 02-05-2003, 08:49 PM   #16
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I noticed that the first time I ever saw it!!! It's probably, Thranduil...
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Old 02-05-2003, 09:16 PM   #17
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probibly was Thranduil. would make sense. but was he ever in the last alliance of men and elves? and why was it necessary to have thranduil included? it would have made more sense to have gil galad in there
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Old 02-05-2003, 10:14 PM   #18
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It isn't Gil-Galad. I've seen a piccie of him. and that ain't him.
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Old 02-06-2003, 05:15 PM   #19
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I noticed that, but I after rewinding several times, I thought it was just another blonde elf. Perhaps it was though, just because of Nunc's reason.

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Old 02-07-2003, 12:28 AM   #20
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I noticed that, and thought it might be Orlando, but I dont think it is anymore. Yeah I think it might be Thranduil. Pj put Gil-galad in for a split second apparently, but I didnt notice until I watched the credits.
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Gil-galad was one of the Elves who received a ring. In the part where you see Galadriel admiring her ring you see Gil-galad in the back. The other Elf is Cirdan who eventually gives Gandalf his ring. Gil-galad has a few split second shots in the battle.

I don't know who the blond Elf is. Perhaps Thranduil or maybe just an extra. I don't think it was Orlando, though. With the wig and similar clothing it made them look similar.
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