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The Cottage of Lost Play
Sometimes I wonder what happened to the Cottage of Lost Play!
From The Book of Lost Tales 1: The Cottage of Lost Play Quote:
The poems at the end are very interesting themselves: Quote:
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance. Last edited by Maedhros : 02-12-2003 at 12:03 AM. |
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11-13-2002, 07:10 PM | #2 |
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Oh, what a beautiful beginning! And that could turn so many ways, too. Thanks for that little bit, Maedhros. You made my day.
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11-14-2002, 12:05 AM | #3 |
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In the beginning, when I was first beginning to read The Book of Lost Tales I, I was curious about the title of the Cottage of Lost Play. When I read it, I was taken by the sheer beauty of it. I read it very carfully and it was great. The concept that men could go to Valinor was very interesting. And the poems in the end are very beautiful.
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance. |
11-14-2002, 02:18 AM | #4 |
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I love the poetry at the end!
O ancient city on a leaguered hill! Old Shadows linger in your broken gate, Your stones are grey, your halls now are still, Your towers silent in the mists await Their crumbling end, while through the storeyed elms The River Gliding leaves these inland realms And slips between long meadows to the Sea, Still bearing down by weir and murmuring fall One day and then another to the Sea; And slowly thither many days have gone Since first the Edain built Kortirion. Truly beautiful pieces of work. I'm also very much smitten with 'Why the Man in the Moon Came Down too Soon', which is a little bit further on from Cottage: The Man in the Moon had silver shoon And his beard was of silver thread; He was girt with pale gold and inaureoled With gold about his head. Clad in silken robe in his great white globe He opened an ivory door And with a crystal key, and in secrecy He stole o'er a shadowy floor.
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11-18-2002, 08:39 PM | #5 |
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mmmmm that is beautiful. We have the BoLT in our library (one hundred thousand thanks to Dr. K. who teaches Fantasy Literature, and insisted that the library buy two copies of everything Tolkien). Next week when my paper crunch is over, i think I'll treat myself to The Cottage of Lost Play.
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11-19-2002, 10:52 PM | #6 |
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The funny thing that the Man on the Moon is in fact and Elf on the Moon. The poetry in Bolt 1 is very pretty.
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance. |
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And who can forget Tinfang Warble:
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance. Last edited by Maedhros : 02-12-2003 at 12:04 AM. |
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02-13-2003, 06:16 AM | #8 |
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The Cottage of Lost Play was indeed a marvellous idea. I was a little disapointed that he never pursued the idea further. It was the stuff of fairy tales and yet not. It definately touched a memory of the excitement that fairy tales gave me when I was a child.
I really wouldn't mind visiting that place. Tolkien described it so pretty and lifelike. I could almost feel the heat from the fireplace as I read. Just picture yourself sitting there amongst the children listening to tales of long ago. Sigh.... *dreams away*
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02-13-2003, 09:47 AM | #9 |
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and who can forget the lady of Tol Eressëa?
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“What does the term american refers to” asked the boy, and the wise man answered: “Lets look at the dictionary then.” As an adjective American is: 1. Of or relating to the United States of America or its people, language, or culture. 2. Of or relating to North or South America, the West Indies, or the Western Hemisphere. As a noun American is: A native or inhabitant of America. A citizen of the United States. Then the boy asked, “What is America then?”, and the wise man looked at the dictionary again: 1. The United States. 2. also the A·mer·i·cas. The landmasses and islands of North America, Central America, and South America. Confused, the boy asked, “Does the term american refers solely to a us citizen or to any person in North, Central or South America?” The wise man replied: “What do you think?”, and the boy answered: “It is clear to me that while the term american is used to refers to us citizens, one can also use it to refer to any person who is from that continent too,” the boy thought for a while and asked the wise man, “Am I right?”, and he replied: “But of course.” The boy wondered, why is it that some people refuse to acknowledge the fact that the term american refers not only to US citizens but to anyone of the American continent?, but then sadly, the boy understood, that it is the calamity of ignorance. |
02-16-2003, 01:26 PM | #10 |
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It's brilliant! It gives me that 'cosy' feel that I feel when I read the early parts of LoTR (The Shire, in the main). Plus I live half an hour away from Stafforshire and and hour form Warrickshire, the settings of the book.
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02-17-2003, 09:42 AM | #11 |
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I really like the Cottage of Lost Play and it's really a pitty that Tolkien dropped the idea of letting some elves telling the tales of middle-earth. That had its own magic.
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02-17-2003, 10:11 AM | #12 |
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And I'm sure that Daeron may be Tinfang. J.R.R states at one point, that the Erresian Elves believe that he is the son of Linwe (Early Elwe) and in the BoLT Daeron is only the son of Elwe, so, maybe he did go somewhere after wondering around Palisor, though that should only be taken for the early mythology.
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05-11-2003, 02:19 PM | #13 |
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"Think on Kortirion and be sad -- yet is there not hope?"
Read Cottage of Lost Play last night. I liked the idea about the Cottage of Children, and the Path of Dreams, through which the children could come. Of the poems I was most taken by "You and me". Leaves me with a feeling of loss though. Wasn't there a sorrowful strain, or is it just me? There once was beauty and bliss - but now it's gone.
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05-11-2003, 07:13 PM | #14 |
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It's too bad he abandoned it. I really liked the whole concept of having the Elves tell Eriol stories seen in The Silmarillion. But it sorta makes sense that he did away with it. It was a little too fairy tale-ish. I don't know if he could have taken his idea for the Cottage and made it more practical for his final draft of Middle Earth.
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