02-19-2009, 09:56 AM | #61 |
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I'd be interested to see if this wasnt a mutation but maybe a recessive trait. A very rare recessive trait maybe. Please discuss.
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02-19-2009, 12:31 PM | #62 |
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Well, at least that's 2 fewer arms to terrorize us with.
I wonder if it's a beneficial or a harmful mutation; although it probably doesn't matter, since as you point out it's almost certainly incredibly recessive. Still awesome though.
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02-19-2009, 12:35 PM | #63 |
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Interesting. We'll probably know more about the success of it as a trait if he gets lucky.
AND, speaking of getting lucky... http://news.nationalgeographic.com/n...n-objects.html Discuss.
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Eh, so guys want to handle women when they see them (nearly-)naked. There's a shock. The sample size is also extremely small and consists almost entirely of college students.
Also, this "some of the men studied showed no activity in the part of the brain that usually responds when a person ponders another's intentions" is needlessly shock-producing. If you read further, you find out which 'some' that is - it's "the men who scored higher as "hostile sexists"—those who view women as controlling and invaders of male space" who "didn't show brain activity that indicates they saw the women in bikinis as humans with thoughts and intentions." In other words, sexists are sexist! Wow... That said, it's always good to see scientists taking an interest in things that will get headlines, and thus funding, for things like brain imaging and scanning, which are important technologies.
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They could still probably build a staircase out of the sea.
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I do wonder if it's really missing the arms, or if they're just completely vestigial. There'd be a big difference...
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However, I dont beleive that women would reveal the same result. You're just better than we are.
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Yes, there most certainly would. It would more definately point to a mutation and not a recessive trait, in my eyes. The photo (however vague) doenst seem to show any vestigial limbs, but through observation and close scrutinization I beleive it may be found out for sure. It makes one wonder exactly which set of arms was deleted? Depending on the arms we may have found an impotent octopus, lacking the equipment to mate. However, he would still, likely, imitate the maneuver, and die afterwards. Although, if he didnt, he may still die. Octopuses die even if their reproductive organs are removed, females lay sterile eggs, gaurd them and die protecting them, and males simply expire.
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I guess it begs the complimentary study about WHY women consistently seek to present themselves in this way if its so horrible that men find their bodies sexually attractive independent of their minds... It seems to me this is all normal biological animal activity. This is how we are supposed to work.
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If I die when I mate....
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Having long pondered why the prefix hex- is substituted for the proper sex- (which is derived from the Latin for six (6) - as in quadruplets(4), quintuplets(5), sextuplets(6), septatuplets(7), and octuplets(8) (see recent news and editorials on the ethics of octuplets), which I know well from my official line of work), I begin to see the light from this thread!
After all, the illustrated Octopus should be a Sexapus, not a Hexapus, if one is consistent with the Latin nomenclature. However, SACA's reference shows that biology trumps once again in the matters of mental functioning, regardless of the nomenclature! What this correlation fails to discover or disclose, but is certainly worth discussing, relatively speaking, is why male brains, lighting up in the tool region when viewing bikini-clad females, would have not used the proper prefix for the - now inaccurately named - hex bolts and hex nuts. The SACA correlation clearly shows that tool use and sex are related by blinky lights on brain scans. So there should be -if the hardwiring is so entrenched, as it were - properly termed sex bolts and sex nuts. Unless this was tried and rendered work a figment of the hexual imagination! This all seems like Greek to me. Discuss. Addendum: Do you think that the (?) biological methane on mars is the result of martian methanogens of the male sex drinking beer and viewing scantily-clad female methanogens at bachelor parties and devolving into lighting digestive tract emissions? Also discuss.
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That...was pretty great, really.
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02-19-2009, 04:35 PM | #75 |
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Sex bolts and sex nuts?
Sounds like a facebook group for an engineering school. If you insist it's Greek, inked, maybe a fraternity. Seriously, about chickens. They'll take care of eggs which are not fertile. It's kinda sad...they try so hard.
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Many animals do that, especially with dead or stillborn young. It's a heartbreaking phenomenon.
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Does that make chickens egg bolts and egg nuts since they seem to be hardwired into behaviour patterns and don't have reason to let them act otherwise? (Reference, your choice, hex bolts and hex nuts versus sex bolts and sex nuts versus ... dead polts and dead nuttins.................).
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It does seem like a disabilitating mutation, but yeah, who knows, maybe it's a recessive gene of some earlier six-tenticled octopus. The develop. biologist, professor P.Z. Myers, didn't rule it out, saying, quote; "Now, if they breed this octopus and find a heritable propensity for limb development failure, then I'll be much more interested, since that means we'd be able to look at the mechanisms."
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Maybe it's possible to find that sort of fossil embedded in ice, where the soft tissue has been preserved, but then again that's not very likely considering the low temperatures (and cephalopods don't usually live in arctic/antarctic waters do they?).
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