04-09-2007, 01:42 PM | #941 |
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Yeah... we were a little off topic there.... back to abortion (although, the reasons why you're bad person would be interrsting :P
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The right-to-lifers tend to be the same people who want the government to provide absolutely nothing once that child pops out. Though there are some exceptions.
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04-09-2007, 04:53 PM | #946 |
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On a personal, rather than a doctrinal, note,
I really hate having these debates characterized as 'religious vs non-religious' people. There are people of faith who support various kinds of birth control, and even abortion, and there are secular people who have all kinds of stands, too. Some people with no religious objection to abortion see it as effectively genocidal, for example.
But remarks, from either side, about 'religious people people think this' and 'non-religious people think that' are inaccurate, as well as, imo, uselessly catty and divisive. If any of the point of these threads is communicating to people of different viewpoints, less of that would be all to the good, imo. |
04-09-2007, 04:58 PM | #947 |
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Hear, hear.
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That's why I usually put "religious" and "non-religious" in quotes - I think they're very often used inaccurately. ALL people have unproven/unproveable beliefs about the actual situation in the universe that they base their decisions on.
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So in that perspective some means of contraception can be considered abortive, even though that is not their primary effect. There is a slim grey area between some contraceptives and medical abortion.
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So in that perspective some means of contraception can be considered abortive, even though that is not their primary effect. There is a slim grey area between some contraceptives and medical abortion.
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Brownie - I don't do "sneaky editorializing" - I abhor sneakiness and I'm really hurt that you would even think I would do that
I'm sorry for my inaccurate use of "Christians" in the square brackets - it wasn't intentionally misleading, it was a honest mistake - it was just an effort to give the quote some context, and I didn't quote the other paragraph because the phrase I was interested in was only in the second paragraph. What's the best way to fix it? Shall I just go back and edit the stuff in the brackets? What I wrote in my post is unaffected by the change, anyway - and I sure don't want to misrepresent anything that anyone says, especially you, a long-time friend
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Why do you say that "non-religious" people "think homosexuality is OK" because "they think that is how god wants it to be"? First, they don't believe in god, and second, they don't think that is how god would want it to be, because they don't believe in him, and they don't really care if there are homosexuals. I mean, what if you were one? (Not you in specific, just giving examples) If "you" were drawn to the same sex, ehat would you do? There are guys that are married and have kids and then they leave their wives telling them that they have always been drawn to men more than women. They are probably physco, but just an example.
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What I meant by the "think they are god" statement is this: they think they are the highest moral authority around, at least for themselves, and often for others. Most "religious" people recognize a higher moral authority.
And I think ANYONE that leaves their family because they're more drawn to ANYONE else needs to suck it up and put someone else ahead of themselves for once
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