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05-18-2004, 06:04 AM | #122 | |
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Now Gaffer, why have you not upgraded to OSX? Ooers, we're ot. *drags thread back on topic* So... anyone done any studies on how many man hours are wasted on windoze 'updates'? (BoP fondly remembers attempting to 'fix' the parents stupid PC )
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05-18-2004, 06:21 AM | #123 |
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LOL. Inflicting Bush on 'em would indeed constitute cruel and unusual punishment.
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05-18-2004, 07:07 AM | #124 |
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Yeah... I was gonna say that you all read it as equal, but I didn't really wanna sound like I knew anything about anything incase someone challanged me...
You weird people... fantasising about inflicting... oh well never mind... On topic-ish... what do windows updates actually do?
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05-18-2004, 07:21 AM | #125 |
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Some of them are rubbish but some close the security doors after the horse has bolted. Best to use the update manager utility thingie if you want to choose which ones you install. Frankly, who can be arsed with that?
Back-of-the-fag-packet calculations tell me that I waste at least two weeks a year because of M$ incompetence and unusability. That means that the opportunity cost to my company is over ten grand (30k if you use our charge-our rate instead of costs) per year, or around 3% of turnover. |
05-18-2004, 12:50 PM | #126 |
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Windows works fine.
If you know the secret codes and signed the contract in blood, and read the dread books of Skelos so that you can safely remove all of the inane crap that they put in to bedazzle idiot consumers... I really wish they'd put out a stripped down version, instead of forcing me to create my own custom installs everytime. As for prisoner abuse, I thought Rumsfield was in charge of that. It's silly to blame Bush, because that would mean that you think he has enough on the ball to actually figure out what's really going on... Not that incompetance is a virtue, mind you. But every time I see that man, I get the impression of a child who's been playing soldier, and is frustrated because the other kids won't lie down when he yells bang...
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06-01-2004, 01:28 PM | #127 |
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Whoa! I leave the thread for a few weeks and the topics have ranged in all areas non-scientific. Thank you for the interesting opinions though. Today I am beginning an upper level physics course so I am excited to be exposed to this area of science! Is anyone else taking or teaching any science courses over the summer? If so what? I would love to share the experiences misery, pain, and occasional excitement that summer classes have to offer
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06-01-2004, 03:54 PM | #128 |
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I have GCSE science exams the week after next. Does that qualify as pain?
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06-03-2004, 12:56 PM | #129 |
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Definitely!
It definitely does, welcome! Keep me updated on the results ...
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06-03-2004, 03:44 PM | #130 | |
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06-24-2004, 12:57 PM | #131 | |
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This ones from sminty. Interesting isn’t it that such basic gene variation can cause such dramatic change in such a “complex” behavior. One that so many humans hold sacrosanct and think is completely “free will” driven and cognitive.
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06-24-2004, 01:04 PM | #132 | |
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Voles don't have Souls. (hey, that rhymes!) Seriously, I don't think human love/sexual drives are completely "free will" driven and cognitive (did you have me in mind when you wrote that? Hmm? ). The key word is "driven". Clearly genetic makeup and chemical input influences the desires of humans. However, that doesn't negate free will - it just makes a free-will decision harder or easier to carry out. After all, one can decide to stay monogamous and yet behave in a promiscuous manner. And another indicator of the HUGE difference between humans and animals - you won't see a vole pondering over the ramifications of his sexual life, while you'll see a human do so. And if a human who WANTS to remain monogamous is DRIVEN by genetic/chemical influences to be promiscuous, he/she will do so, yet will regret the behavior and wish they could have abided by their free-will decision. Again, a big difference to what we can see in animals.
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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*muses: Do Voles / Have Souls? / Who Knows? / *
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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So there is NO such thing as "free will" (as it is commonly defined), IYO?
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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We think it's free! I imagine "true" free will to be very rare, very difficult, if not impossible. Everybody has their own unique set of genetic (physical) predispositions, brain set ups and brain chemical leanings that keep your emotional dials set on certain levels, physical attributes that systematically favor certain behaviors over others, plus there's all the "nurture" stuff which colors your opinion of good/bad. You can pick or choose what to do, certainly...but the reasons why you pick are (deep down) influenced strongly by chemical and physical *dials* built into your body as it develops. IMO, the vast/infinite # of possible mixes that makes us all unigue is fascinating. Thank goodness our genetic codes have been modified somewhat by natural selection to favor (more or less ) "good" behavior. I think! I hope!
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So there's no reason to praise my children when they act unselfishly towards their siblings? There was no choice involved?
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! Ñá ë?* óú éä ïöü Öñ É Þ ð ß ® ç å ™ æ ♪ ?* "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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