05-29-2003, 09:22 AM | #21 |
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Rap =/= Music
Like basically everyone else has said, rap is poetry, and since poetry naturally has a rythm and a scheme to itself I would not call a simple drum beat or little DJ mixed notes in a rap song the "music" because it is already implied by the flow of words.
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05-29-2003, 01:16 PM | #22 |
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Sure it's music. You only have to listen to songs like "Rappers Delight", "Gangsters Paradise", and "Walk this way", or "My Adidas" () to hear this. Plus, as much as I hate to admit it, Eminem certain some pretty unusual arrangements (via voice, and backing) as well. The problem, as with anything, is that rap has become more commercialised, and in doing so, the genre has been guilty of creating tripe just as the pop industry has been. I mean: can we really even call something like S Club 7, or Steps music? A lot of their stuff is just bassy bits, with them dancing to it. Also, as someone already said, Rock 'n Roll was once considered to be non-music as well. Interesting, cos both styles of music were ripped off black people.
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Am I the only one on this message board thats getting a little tired of the old lets split hairs by talking about strict definitions approach to arguing? whats the point of that? we all know rap is considered "music" irregardless of what your little definition of music is so lets stop throwing dictionaries at each other. step one. use common sense. dont try to elude the basic question by arguing over symantics. and thats my rap on that.
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These people are not using their voices as instruments, they are simply talking fastly without any sense of direction. As for poetry, it seems to me that they say irrelavant lines in their "lyrics" for the sake of one word rhyming with the other.
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05-29-2003, 06:42 PM | #25 |
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Rap isn't music. Rap is simply some dude guy talking quickly and swearing to a backtrack. Rap is either yelling about money and cars (bling-bling >.<) or making fun of a race, sex, religion, individual, or something else. Or it's just a mindless babble of swears. Rap is NOT music, but heck, neither is Britney Spears.
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Blink 182 is garbage... never liked them and I don't punk in general. Strumming power chords isn't my idea of musical talent. My point about rap relating to drugs and sex etc..... isn't whether its music but poetry. C'mon how are they moderns poets on the street... I heard one rap song and he was telling some girl to get down on her knees. It was funny but I don't call that poetry. Or how about when they sing about pimping.. is that poetry too? Most bands that I here singing about drugs isn't about selling it or buying it but about the struggle with their addiction. I have heard several rap songs talking about how they are going to get stoned etc.... Anyways most bands I listen are not popular at all and I don't like pop music of any genre. (Thats where most of the garbage comes from) |
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05-30-2003, 05:10 PM | #31 |
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I have never liked rap, and I never will. I can't stand their constant screaming about things that no one cares about. I also can't stand their names. Ja Rule.....
Even though I don't like to say discriminating words, I just had to let this out... Retards Attempting Poetry
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I don't think that rap is music. I think of it more as "fast talking"
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I'm not arguing whether its music or not, I accept rap as a type of music. I said I think the mainstream rap doesn't qualify as poetry. When you generalize something you use the words "all" or "always". Saying quite a bit of "x" is not implying everything but a portion. I think I made myself clear so i'm throwing in the towel on this thread.
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06-01-2003, 06:26 PM | #37 |
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Music is universally defined as "the art of arranging sounds in time so as to produce a continuous, unified, and evocative composition, as through melody, harmony, rhythm, and timbre" or simply "vocal or instrumental sounds possessing a degree of melody, harmony, or rhythm".
Digital instruments are still instruments. Vocal sounds includes fast talking that rhymes as well as just plain talking. And rap always has at least one of these: melody, harmony, rhythm. So though the popular opinion is that "rap isn't music", you're going to have to face that it is indeed music. Just not the kind you obviously like. |
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Rap is not music, I am right and you are wrong. End of story.
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