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Here's a kiss for you Rian!
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Thanks, Lizra
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! ![]() "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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I like all this kissing.
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Thanks, Andúril
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. I should be doing the laundry, but this is MUCH more fun! ![]() "How lovely are Thy dwelling places, O Lord of hosts! ... For a day in Thy courts is better than a thousand outside." (from Psalm 84) * * * God rocks! Entmoot : Veni, vidi, velcro - I came, I saw, I got hooked! Ego numquam pronunciare mendacium, sed ego sum homo indomitus! Run the earth and watch the sky ... Auta i lómë! Aurë entuluva! |
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wow
Just came back from being away for 3 days...you guys put up quite some arguments
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They certainly did!
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He put his dictionary in, he put his dictionary out........
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Ignored the first sentence, didn't you?
And I meant that you had predetermined that there is no God.
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Whatever you meant by "whirring", I took it to mean "thinking" or "thinking hard". Since I can't read your post without thinking, and I can't stop myself from thinking hard (most of the time), there was nothing I could do but ignore that part. Quote:
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A quick note for Andúril - I said on Friday that I would address your posts by Monday, but what I didn't realize is that Monday is a holiday (Martin Luther King day) here in the US, and all 3 kidlings are home from school and in a PaRtY mOoD! I think I probably won't be able to get to it in detail until tomorrow - sorry
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Anduril: As you have been talking about how God is impossible, logic proves that there is no God, etc. it is certainly a logical conclusion to draw that you have predetermined that their is no God. Anyway, this is nitpicking.
I never said that a lack of complete accuracy means complete inaccuracy. Don't put words in my mouth. By "whirring", I meant stop the constant attempting to prove and disprove; couldn't you just read it, without dissecting and nitpicking? Eternal is unending. Something that will never end. Omnipotent is all-powerful. This does not have to do with being able to lie. As Rian said, there are two kinds of can; one can which is is physically able to (like I can pick up that box). Another has to do with who you are, and you're nature (like Lady Macbeth could not kill the king, because of his resemblance to her father). Omnipresent means a being that is Everywhere. Allow me to address an issue; you will say that God cannot be omnipresent: Hell is separation from God. As I have said before: All of this Logic does not really apply to the supernatural, in my opinion. You cannot force the supernatural to fit the rules of the natural. Otherwise, how would it be supernatural? When I say vast, I don't mean physically; God's physical form was that of Jesus Christ, or the form he used when he visited Abram, or (I think, but I'm not sure) Melchezidec. I refer to a different kind of vastness; a supernatural vastness; his Being is vast, not his physical shape. This being affected you by creating the world you walk on, and creating you (indirectly), according to Christian beliefs. I would say that's a pretty substantial way to affect someone. EXACTLY. In my belief, the human being cannot know exactly how powerful God is. Sorry if my answers are out of place; just did it at random. ![]() 1 last thing: Couldn't you have just stopped your analysing, logic-izing :P, and dissection, and just read it, without doing any of that; just read it and done this one thing I asked?
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Two quick examples of the 'rules' idea - there's a great one in The Chronicles of Narnia by C. S. Lewis, and a great one in the Bible. Narnia - (btw, Narnia is not an allegory in the sense of Aslan is Jesus and Narnia is this world; what Lewis says it is is his idea of how Jesus would appear in a different world; one where animals can talk. Aslan is definitely Jesus, but Narnia is not Earth. And if there is sin in Narnia, then Jesus would also come to Narnia to die there for sinners.) Anyway, Edward (one of the 4 kids that comes to Narnia from Earth) is a traitor, and thus his life is forfeit. The rules of Narnia say that a traitor shall die. The White Witch knows the rules, and rightfully claims the right to kill Edward. However, Aslan offers himself in Edward's place. The witch is thrilled with this - Aslan is a MUCH greater prize than Edward - and Aslan allows himself to be killed in Edward's place. However, Aslan comes back to life - is this 'against the rules'? Aslan explains it as follows: Quote:
The example from the Bible is when Jesus saw the moneychangers and merchants in the temple court - Quote:
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I don't think Anduril commented on that, that I can remember at least: I was just saying that beforehand.
That is a really great passage! I wish I still had my Narnia books. ![]()
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Oh, I see - I missed the 'will' in 'you will say' - oh well, a good topic, anyway!
Yes, Narnia is really good, you can see one of my favorite quotes from there in my sig. I can almost feel the waves when I read The Voyage of the Dawn Treader. And I think Lewis really succeeds in giving just a glimpse of heaven in the last book - I always get a thrill when I read that section.
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My favorite was probably the Magician's Nephew: I loved the Creation story, and how it tells about the beginnings of Narnia, and the Lamp-post!
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Have fun! Go see some Centaurs for me!
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*can't remember, so looks it up*
Ah! "Further up and further in!" And there's something in The Silver Chair that I hope I can get to tomorrow to illustrate another angle of our discussion...
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