Flu Bug: 2003-04

***Valandil*** · 12-05-2003, 11:51 AM

Have you folks seen the concerns about the new flu strain expected to create a lot of havoc this winter? It has started early and appears to be hard to treat.

I saw where one health official in Colorado expects up to 70,000 deaths in the US from the flu this year. Colorado has been hit harder than most of us early.

Later in the article, I read that flu normally kills 36,000 people in the US each year... I had NO IDEA!!!

Spock · 12-05-2003, 02:19 PM

Yep, in fact the CDC was in my town six weeks ago as we had the highest concentration of flu cases in the Commonwealth.
This is going to be a bad year.

Ruinel · 12-05-2003, 02:34 PM

There was a flu epidemic in history that was really bad, I wonder if anyone knows anything about it (cuz I'm way too lazy right now to look it up myself).

I had the flu shot a couple of times in my lifetime and every time I get it, I get the damn flu. And whenever I don't get the flu shot, I don't get the flu. I don't know why that is. Maybe I'm just a freak.

sun-star · 12-05-2003, 02:58 PM

The 1918 Spanish flu epidemic? It killed 675,000 people in the US alone.

I don't suppose this one will be so bad

though it will be bad enough

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 12-05-2003, 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
There was a flu epidemic in history that was really bad, I wonder if anyone knows anything about it (cuz I'm way too lazy right now to look it up myself).

I had the flu shot a couple of times in my lifetime and every time I get it, I get the damn flu. And whenever I don't get the flu shot, I don't get the flu. I don't know why that is. Maybe I'm just a freak.

Elves don't get the flu Ru.

I hear this years flu is going to hit children harder than anyone else. Not sure of the count, but I think four in Colorado have died already.

Radagast The Brown · 12-05-2003, 04:30 PM

I had flu last week. I had 39.7 C degrees. It was only flu though - and only for 3 days.

Yeah, this year there would probably be more flu cases than the past. But it's only flu - it's not a very seroius disease usually. Better flu than plague or somerthing worse.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 12-05-2003, 04:36 PM

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Originally posted by Radagast The Brown
I had flu last week. I had 39.7 C degrees. It was only flu though - and only for 3 days.

Yeah, this year there would probably be more flu cases than the past. But it's only flu - it's not a very seroius disease usually. Better flu than plague or somerthing worse.

Well, certian strains of the flu can be deadly, especially to the very young, the elderly, and to people with compromised immune systems.

Spock · 12-05-2003, 04:39 PM

Several of my friends got the flu already this year and believe me it was bad. One had to go to the hospital and yet the diagnosis was simply flu. So count yourself lucky RTB.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 12-05-2003, 04:49 PM

I also heard on the news that it will depend on where you live and your climate, as to when it will peak. Here in Ohio, flu season peaks around the first of the year.

Ruinel · 12-05-2003, 04:51 PM

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Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
Elves don't get the flu Ru.

*ignores obvious comeback to refrain from inevitable spam-fest*

Quote:

I hear this years flu is going to hit children harder than anyone else. Not sure of the count, but I think four in Colorado have died already.

Oh, that's terrible. 4 kids in Colorado have already died?

How sad. I've been substituting mostly in elementary schools. Those little kids love to hug

and touch everything in the classroom, and they have the worst cleanliness habits...

*runs off to scrub hands with soap and water*

Ruinel · 12-05-2003, 04:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by sun-star
The 1918 Spanish flu epidemic? It killed 675,000 people in the US alone.

I don't suppose this one will be so bad

though it will be bad enough

Wow! That's a lot of people!

Thanks for the information.

***Sister Golden Hair*** · 12-05-2003, 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
*ignores obvious comeback to refrain from inevitable spam-fest*

BUSTED!

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Oh, that's terrible. 4 kids in Colorado have already died? How sad. I've been substituting mostly in elementary schools. Those little kids love to hug and touch everything in the classroom, and they have the worst cleanliness habits...
*runs off to scrub hands with soap and water*

Actually, medical experts say that the best way to avoid getting sick, is to constantly wash your hands. My grandma use to always yell at us to wash our hands, and we thought she was crazy, but they have learned it is a key factor in staying healthy.

Ruinel · 12-05-2003, 05:30 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Sister Golden Hair
BUSTED!

Actually, medical experts say that the best way to avoid getting sick, is to constantly wash your hands. My grandma use to always yell at us to wash our hands, and we thought she was crazy, but they have learned it is a key factor in staying healthy.

i wish someone would train the kids at the elementary schools this.

***Earniel*** · 12-06-2003, 05:53 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Valandil
Have you folks seen the concerns about the new flu strain expected to create a lot of havoc this winter? It has started early and appears to be hard to treat.

Urgl, don't remind me. *cough cough* A flu-epidemic is expected here soon. Nearly half of the people I talk to in school start to stay home sick or have throataches. I feel I'm next....

*goes off in search of thermometer*

zinnite · 12-06-2003, 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
Wow! That's a lot of people! Thanks for the information.

I believe the worldwide death toll was in the millions. It was spread by the many soldiers coming home from World War I.

***Tessar*** · 12-06-2003, 01:11 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Ruinel
every time I get it, I get the damn flu. And whenever I don't get the flu shot, I don't get the flu. I don't know why that is. Maybe I'm just a freak.

The reason for that is the shot infects you with a very mild form of the flue virus. By HAVING that in you, it builds up your immunity to stronger flu viruses.

That's why you get sick

.

Plus the whole 'freak' thing might help

.

Spock · 12-06-2003, 01:16 PM

True but FYI this years vaccine doesn't adequately protect against the strain that actually is here. It mutated some according to the CDC. Oh, and last night the news story of the day was that the manufacturers of the vaccine don't have any more stock. Last year they had 13 million doses go unsold and so they made less overall this year. Now with the new strain and all the people being told to get the shot, if your doctor etc. runs out there isn't any more to be had.
Yikes!

gimli7410 · 12-06-2003, 02:34 PM

anyone have any idea if this is happening in canada to?

Ruinel · 12-06-2003, 04:04 PM

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Originally posted by gimli7410
anyone have any idea if this is happening in canada to?

I'd venture to guess that if it's going on in Europe and the US as well, that it's probably going to hit Canada too. Just my guess though.

Hemel · 12-06-2003, 06:19 PM

bother!

I think I'm getting it ....

12-05-2003, 11:51 AM	#1
*Valandil* High King at Annuminas Administrator Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Wyoming - USA Posts: 10,752	Flu Bug: 2003-04 Have you folks seen the concerns about the new flu strain expected to create a lot of havoc this winter? It has started early and appears to be hard to treat. I saw where one health official in Colorado expects up to 70,000 deaths in the US from the flu this year. Colorado has been hit harder than most of us early. Later in the article, I read that flu normally kills 36,000 people in the US each year... I had NO IDEA!!! Last edited by Valandil : 12-05-2003 at 02:58 PM.

12-05-2003, 02:19 PM	#2
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Yep, in fact the CDC was in my town six weeks ago as we had the highest concentration of flu cases in the Commonwealth. This is going to be a bad year. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

12-05-2003, 02:58 PM	#4
sun-star Lady of Letters Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Either Oxford or Kent, England Posts: 2,476	The 1918 Spanish flu epidemic? It killed 675,000 people in the US alone. I don't suppose this one will be so bad though it will be bad enough __________________ And all the time the waves, the waves, the waves Chase, intersect and flatten on the sand As they have done for centuries, as they will For centuries to come, when not a soul Is left to picnic on the blazing rocks, When England is not England, when mankind Has blown himself to pieces. Still the sea, Consolingly disastrous, will return While the strange starfish, hugely magnified, Waits in the jewelled basin of a pool.

12-05-2003, 04:30 PM	#6
Radagast The Brown Elf Lord Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Israel Posts: 6,975	I had flu last week. I had 39.7 C degrees. It was only flu though - and only for 3 days. Yeah, this year there would probably be more flu cases than the past. But it's only flu - it's not a very seroius disease usually. Better flu than plague or somerthing worse. __________________ Lalala... poof! AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

12-05-2003, 04:39 PM	#8
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	Several of my friends got the flu already this year and believe me it was bad. One had to go to the hospital and yet the diagnosis was simply flu. So count yourself lucky RTB. __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

12-05-2003, 02:34 PM	#3
Ruinel Banned Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: I have no idea. Posts: 5,441	There was a flu epidemic in history that was really bad, I wonder if anyone knows anything about it (cuz I'm way too lazy right now to look it up myself). I had the flu shot a couple of times in my lifetime and every time I get it, I get the damn flu. And whenever I don't get the flu shot, I don't get the flu. I don't know why that is. Maybe I'm just a freak.

12-05-2003, 04:49 PM	#9
*Sister Golden Hair* Queen of Nargothrond Administrator Join Date: Feb 2001 Location: Akron, Ohio - USA Posts: 7,121	I also heard on the news that it will depend on where you live and your climate, as to when it will peak. Here in Ohio, flu season peaks around the first of the year. __________________ "Whither go you?" she said. "North away." he said: "to the swords, and the siege, and the walls of defence - that yet for a while in Beleriand rivers may run clean, leaves spring, and birds build their nests, ere Night comes." AboutNewJersey.com - New Jersey Travel and Tourism Guide

12-06-2003, 01:16 PM	#17
Spock An enigma in a conundrum Join Date: Oct 1999 Posts: 6,476	True but FYI this years vaccine doesn't adequately protect against the strain that actually is here. It mutated some according to the CDC. Oh, and last night the news story of the day was that the manufacturers of the vaccine don't have any more stock. Last year they had 13 million doses go unsold and so they made less overall this year. Now with the new strain and all the people being told to get the shot, if your doctor etc. runs out there isn't any more to be had. Yikes! __________________ Vizzini: "HE DIDN'T FALL?! INCONCEIVABLE!!" Inigo: "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."

12-06-2003, 02:34 PM	#18
gimli7410 the dumb stoner canuck Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: canada Posts: 2,542	anyone have any idea if this is happening in canada to? __________________ -"Down with the system"-Serj tankian of system of a down -“Humans have been on the earth for millions of years, yet we don’t believe man began thinking until he started building walls. And what good have these walls ever done us?”-Serj tankian of soad -"stupid people do stupid things"-Serj tankian of soad "Trying is the first step to failure" Homer Simpson "It isn't going to be easy"-jerseydevil "only the good die young" I AM CANADIAN If the people lead, the leaders will follow.

12-06-2003, 06:19 PM	#20
Hemel Elven Warrior Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: on the boats Posts: 264	bother! I think I'm getting it ....

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