Why Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars

Melonethriel · 08-23-2003, 07:50 PM

Ok, you have to say why youthink Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars.

LOTR is better because...

Obi-Wan Kenobi and Gandalf both had someone in their debt. But the Eagle-king is MUCH better than an overgrown toad, Jar-Jar-Binks.[FONT=century gothic]

straight_face · 08-23-2003, 09:22 PM

I just realized it's been a long time since I've been on this forum...

Eh, Jar Jar Binks was sort of the misfit of Star Wars... If you were to make a reference to which is better, I would prefer the reference be made to the older Star Wars.

I don't have a favorite at all. They're both great trilogies in many ways. Perhaps because it's hard to follow the Lord of the Rings movies over the books, sometimes I'd say Star Wars. Then again, with the new Star Wars installments, I'd say the Lord of the Rings...

I'm just going to conclude that I have no favorites.

Varda Oiolosseo · 08-24-2003, 06:55 AM

Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars because in my opinion Star Wars is crap.

Black Breathalizer · 08-24-2003, 09:57 AM

The first Star Wars trilogy was great (particularly ANH and ESB). But there really is no comparison, especially once PJ releases The Return of the King

Melko Belcha · 08-24-2003, 05:28 PM

As far as the films go I like the original Star Wars Trilogy better then LotR.

As far as the books Star Wars is not even close to LotR.

durin's bane · 08-24-2003, 10:42 PM

While I enjoy watching Star Wars, I'd have to say LotR is better, even though I don't really like the movies, seeing as I'm a Tolkien-fanatic.

Star Wars are great movies, but the newer installments really, well, suck. The original trilogy was a great collection of films, but because of the prequels' badness, LotR will always get my vote.

Gwaimir Windgem · 08-25-2003, 02:18 AM

The Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars because it is classical literature...oh, you meant the movies! Well, the movies aren't better than Star Wars.

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Black Breathalizer · 08-26-2003, 01:40 PM

Thanks, Gwaimir.

How does The Enlightened One sound?

mithrand1r · 08-26-2003, 01:50 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Black Breathalizer
Thanks, Gwaimir.

How does The Enlightened One sound?

I think that would be a riot. Especially, since at times I wonder if you are watching the same films that I am.

If you put your mind to it you, will come up with the appropriate title.

Maybe "The Black Knight"

to play off of your screen name.

Balrog_of_Morgoth · 08-26-2003, 07:12 PM

Believe it or not, I had never seen ESB or ROTJ until last year. I watched all 3 of the enhance versions in one night.

I missed the whole Star Wars thing when it happened in the 70's. I just wasn't into it. I did see the first one, however.

As a story, I think Star Wars is pretty awesome. The whole aspect of a Jedi Knight is fascinating, and I don't think they went in depth on that subject enough.

Lord of the Rings is, of course, my all time favorite book, besides the Silmarillion, which is basically its prequel.

So far, I think the Lord of the Rings movies have created more of a realistic feeling parallel world. Maybe it is because of technological advances in film making, but that is not the question here.

Lastly, (and this is a point that no sane person can argue) is that the acting in LOTR is absolutely excellant while the acting in Star Wars is mediocre, especially in Attack of the Clones. This seals the deal for me.

Rosie Gamgee · 08-26-2003, 07:40 PM

LOTR is better that SW cuz-

-the acting is better
-the story is better
-the special effects are better
-the guys is LOTR are better looking (not to be all wishy-washy there)
-the hobbits are cuter than the Ewoks (a little wishy-washy there, though)
-Arwen doesn't turn out to be Aragorn's sister
-the Fellowship isn't stupid enough to fly their star-ship (well, if they had one) into the mouth of a giant crater-worm
-Yoda's lightsabering doesn't hold a candle to Gollum's fish-killing methods
-Gimli is much more comprehendable than Chewie
-Gandalf is smarter than Obi Wan and Qui Gon
-Frodo doesn't have a mother who says "There is no other way"- he gets to say it himself
-there's nothing in SW quite as disgusting as the Orcs
-Leia doesn't get to kill a witch-king
-Sauron doesn't cackle and say "Young Skywalker" all the time
-Saurman doesn't say things like "Apology accepted, Captain Lurtz"
-the clothes in LOTR are much better than anything in SW
-the Mos Eisley cantina band doesn't play any songs like 'Hey Ho To The Bottle I Go'
-Elrond's hairdos are better than Leia's
-there are no Balrogs in SW
-nobody says "Good shot, Red2!" a bazzilion times in LOTR
-no one exclaims "I haaaavvveee a baaaad feeling about this!" in LOTR
-Merry and Pippin bicker better than C3P0 and R2D2 (actually, this is debatable)

btw, I used to be a big Star Wars fan, so I'm allowed to pick on it

Gwaimir Windgem · 09-01-2003, 01:24 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by mithrand1r
Maybe "The Black Knight" to play off of your screen name.

The Black Knights always triumph! Have at you!

I'm invincible!

Sorry...little Monty Python flashback...

Black Breathalizer · 09-02-2003, 08:51 AM

LOTR has Gollum while SW has Jar Jar Binks

'Nuff Said.

Wayfarer · 09-02-2003, 07:14 PM

IMHO, TTT was just AOTC in a SFC setting. :P They were both cheesy action movies with only the most superficial of plots. TPM was pretty cheesy at times, as well. However, neither of the jackson movies hold a candle to the original Star Wars trilogy, which was, after all, made back when filmakers held themselves to a standard and special effects were secondary to plot action and characterization.

***HOBBIT*** · 09-03-2003, 08:44 PM

well, to be honest, Star Wars (at least OT most people will agree with me on) movies are better than the lotr movies...

Don't get me wrong, the Lotr movies are good - but they aren't classics (not yet anyway)....they aren't as good.

I think the prequels are just as enjoyable as the lotr movies in every way.

And as for comparing a great work of literature to a great work of a film is just silly - they are two separate great things!

Of course Star Wars is better than Lotr movies.

Gamigar · 09-15-2003, 07:00 PM

LotR is better because people dont jump from 300 feet and remain unscathed.

hectorberlioz · 09-20-2003, 02:55 PM

you cant compare lotr to the NEW star wars. but comparing lotr to the classics, i cant make that comparison. i do like to make re-create in my mind the star wars movies with lotr carachter and vice versa.

durin's bane · 09-20-2003, 03:07 PM

Oh, and another way LotR is better than Star Wars:

No freakin' Jake Lloyd. I swear, that kid cannot act.

RohirrimGuy · 09-21-2003, 08:05 AM

Ugh no.

LOTR is by far better than the new ones. The old ones are closer to LOTR but IMO LOTR is better.

Rosie Gamgee · 09-23-2003, 05:46 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by RohirrimGuy
Ugh no.

LOTR is by far better than the new ones. The old ones are closer to LOTR but IMO LOTR is better.

Yeah! What he said.

08-23-2003, 07:50 PM	#1
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08-23-2003, 09:22 PM	#2
straight_face Enting Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Angband Posts: 91	I just realized it's been a long time since I've been on this forum... Eh, Jar Jar Binks was sort of the misfit of Star Wars... If you were to make a reference to which is better, I would prefer the reference be made to the older Star Wars. I don't have a favorite at all. They're both great trilogies in many ways. Perhaps because it's hard to follow the Lord of the Rings movies over the books, sometimes I'd say Star Wars. Then again, with the new Star Wars installments, I'd say the Lord of the Rings... I'm just going to conclude that I have no favorites. __________________ 'There was no need. He halted just by us and looked down at us. "Gandalf!" I said at last, but my voice was only a whisper. Did he say: "Hullo, Pippin! This is a pleasant surprise!" No, indeed! He said: "Get up, you tom-fool of a Took! Where, in the name of wonder, in all this ruin is Treebeard? I want him. Quick!"' 'What are we going to do now then?' asked Pippin, undaunted by the wizard's bristling brows. "Knock on the door with your head, Peregrin Took,' said Gandalf. 'But if that does not shatter them, and I am allowed a little peace from foolish questions, I will seek for the opening words.' 'Fool of a Took!' he growled. 'This is a serious journey, not a hobbit walking-party. Throw yourself in next time, and then you will be no further nuisance. Now be quiet!'

08-24-2003, 05:28 PM	#5
Melko Belcha Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Behind the Walls of Night Posts: 286	As far as the films go I like the original Star Wars Trilogy better then LotR. As far as the books Star Wars is not even close to LotR. __________________ "....rapturous words from which ultimatley sprang the whole of my mythology" - JRR Tolkien Hail Earendel brightest of angels, over middle-earth sent unto men Crist by Cynewulf (lines 104-5)

08-24-2003, 10:42 PM	#6
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	While I enjoy watching Star Wars, I'd have to say LotR is better, even though I don't really like the movies, seeing as I'm a Tolkien-fanatic. Star Wars are great movies, but the newer installments really, well, suck. The original trilogy was a great collection of films, but because of the prequels' badness, LotR will always get my vote. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

08-25-2003, 02:18 AM	#7
Gwaimir Windgem Dread Mothy Lord and Halfwitted Apprentice Loremaster Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Thomas Aquinas College, Santa Paula, CA Posts: 10,820	The Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars because it is classical literature...oh, you meant the movies! Well, the movies aren't better than Star Wars. Side Note: Congrats, BB! You've reached your 500th post! You can now select a Custom Title. If you'd like to take advantage of this feature, just come up with a title, and PM it to one of the admins (Sister Golden Hair is probably your best bet). __________________ Crux fidelis, inter omnes arbor una nobilis. Nulla talem silva profert, fronde, flore, germine. Dulce lignum, dulce clavo, dulce pondus sustinens. 'With a melon?' - Eric Idle

08-24-2003, 06:55 AM	#3
Varda Oiolosseo Tea Bag Queen Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Mirkwood Posts: 973	Lord of the Rings is better than Star Wars because in my opinion Star Wars is crap.

08-24-2003, 09:57 AM	#4
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	The first Star Wars trilogy was great (particularly ANH and ESB). But there really is no comparison, especially once PJ releases The Return of the King

08-26-2003, 01:40 PM	#8
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	Thanks, Gwaimir. How does *The Enlightened One* sound?

08-26-2003, 07:12 PM	#10
Balrog_of_Morgoth Elven Warrior Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Parkersburg WV Posts: 110	Believe it or not, I had never seen ESB or ROTJ until last year. I watched all 3 of the enhance versions in one night. I missed the whole Star Wars thing when it happened in the 70's. I just wasn't into it. I did see the first one, however. As a story, I think Star Wars is pretty awesome. The whole aspect of a Jedi Knight is fascinating, and I don't think they went in depth on that subject enough. Lord of the Rings is, of course, my all time favorite book, besides the Silmarillion, which is basically its prequel. So far, I think the Lord of the Rings movies have created more of a realistic feeling parallel world. Maybe it is because of technological advances in film making, but that is not the question here. Lastly, (and this is a point that no sane person can argue) is that the acting in LOTR is absolutely excellant while the acting in Star Wars is mediocre, especially in Attack of the Clones. This seals the deal for me. __________________ Fingolfin: The Mighty Elven Lord who challenged Morgoth to single combat!

08-26-2003, 07:40 PM	#11
Rosie Gamgee The Lovely Hobbit-Lass Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Bounded in a nut-shell Posts: 1,593	LOTR is better that SW cuz- -the acting is better -the story is better -the special effects are better -the guys is LOTR are better looking (not to be all wishy-washy there) -the hobbits are cuter than the Ewoks (a little wishy-washy there, though) -Arwen doesn't turn out to be Aragorn's sister -the Fellowship isn't stupid enough to fly their star-ship (well, if they had one) into the mouth of a giant crater-worm -Yoda's lightsabering doesn't hold a candle to Gollum's fish-killing methods -Gimli is much more comprehendable than Chewie -Gandalf is smarter than Obi Wan and Qui Gon -Frodo doesn't have a mother who says "There is no other way"- he gets to say it himself -there's nothing in SW quite as disgusting as the Orcs -Leia doesn't get to kill a witch-king -Sauron doesn't cackle and say "Young Skywalker" all the time -Saurman doesn't say things like "Apology accepted, Captain Lurtz" -the clothes in LOTR are much better than anything in SW -the Mos Eisley cantina band doesn't play any songs like 'Hey Ho To The Bottle I Go' -Elrond's hairdos are better than Leia's -there are no Balrogs in SW -nobody says "Good shot, Red2!" a bazzilion times in LOTR -no one exclaims "I haaaavvveee a baaaad feeling about this!" in LOTR -Merry and Pippin bicker better than C3P0 and R2D2 (actually, this is debatable) btw, I used to be a big Star Wars fan, so I'm allowed to pick on it __________________ It's New Years Day, just like the day before; Same old skies of grey, same empty bottles on the floor. Another year's gone by, and I was thinking once again, How can I take this losing hand and somehow win? Just give me One Good Year To get my feet back on the ground. I've been chasing grace; Grace ain't so easily found One bad hand can devil a man, chase him and carry him down. I've got to get out of here, just give me One Good Year! Last edited by Rosie Gamgee : 08-26-2003 at 07:42 PM.

09-02-2003, 08:51 AM	#13
Black Breathalizer Elf Lord Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 828	LOTR has Gollum while SW has Jar Jar Binks 'Nuff Said.

09-02-2003, 07:14 PM	#14
Wayfarer The Insufferable Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 3,333	IMHO, TTT was just AOTC in a SFC setting. :P They were both cheesy action movies with only the most superficial of plots. TPM was pretty cheesy at times, as well. However, neither of the jackson movies hold a candle to the original Star Wars trilogy, which was, after all, made back when filmakers held themselves to a standard and special effects were secondary to plot action and characterization. __________________ Disgraced he may be, yet is not dethroned, and keeps the rags of lordship once he owned

09-03-2003, 08:44 PM	#15
*HOBBIT* Saviour of Entmoot Admiral Join Date: Nov 1999 Location: NC/NJ (no longer Same place as bmilder.) Posts: 61,986	well, to be honest, Star Wars (at least OT most people will agree with me on) movies are better than the lotr movies... Don't get me wrong, the Lotr movies are good - but they aren't classics (not yet anyway)....they aren't as good. I think the prequels are just as enjoyable as the lotr movies in every way. And as for comparing a great work of literature to a great work of a film is just silly - they are two separate great things! Of course Star Wars is better than Lotr movies. __________________ President Emeritus (2000-2004) Private message (or email) me if you need any assistance. I am here to help! "I'm up to here with cool, ok? I'm so amazingly cool you could keep a side of meat in me for a month. I am so hip I have difficulty seeing over my pelvis" - Zaphod Beeblebrox Latest Blog Post: Just Quit Facebook? No One Cares!

09-15-2003, 07:00 PM	#16
Gamigar Elven Warrior Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: somewhere between here and there Posts: 116	LotR is better because people dont jump from 300 feet and remain unscathed. __________________ The road goes ever on and on Down from the door where it began Now far ahead the road has gone And I must follow if I can Pursuing it with eager feet Until it joins some larger way Where many paths and errands meet And wither then I can not say

09-20-2003, 02:55 PM	#17
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09-20-2003, 03:07 PM	#18
durin's bane Lady of Westernesse Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Canada (Help! Our parliament building is melting!) Posts: 761	Oh, and another way LotR is better than Star Wars: No freakin' Jake Lloyd. I swear, that kid cannot act. __________________ Yada, yada, yada

09-21-2003, 08:05 AM	#19
RohirrimGuy Sapling Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Ohio Posts: 12	Ugh no. LOTR is by far better than the new ones. The old ones are closer to LOTR but IMO LOTR is better. __________________ "I return to you now, at the turn of the tide!" -Gandalf TTT "Red sun rises, blood has been spilled this night!" -Legolas Greenleaf TTT "If you want him, come and claim him!" -Arwen FOTR Jesus Freak! Bwaha!!

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