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Re-Call
What is up with this california re-call? Its like 100 people are running. I think that it is wrong. What do you think?
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More like 200. And yeah I think its a joke. The more of a three ring circus this becomes the more illegitimate it will be. They should have just voted Davis out when his time came around again. This is setting a really bad precedent. Now people will think hey if my guy lost the election lets just recall the guy who won in the hopes we will get one of my guys in. bad bad message to send..... and arnold is NOT qualified to be a governor for gods sake! just because hes a popular actor?? course in this country qualifications dont seem as important really. I mean look at our president.
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The situation with California's economy is pretty bad, and i don't think anything is wrong with the recall.
The problem arises with the candidates. I was listening to Shaun Hannity today on the radio. He was talking to Gary Coleman, who was talking about how he wanted to run for gov. ![]() |
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How is this re-call justified anyway? Wouldn't the bad economy be more of a gradual build-up, rather than the fault of one administration?
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![]() the only thing more ridiculous than blaming one person for something as complex as California's economic crisis is expecting one person to be able to fix it...
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California is a huge state, with a high amount of immigrants. My own state is a mess...I can't imagine trying to pull all the things going on in California together!
Man, I'd vote for Arnold in a heartbeat! ![]() ![]() I'm so mad at Indiana leaders... the only incumbents I'm voting for are Richard Lugar and Evan Bayh. The rest can go to H*ll and figure out how to decrease my property taxes! ![]()
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If Arnold gets elected than he will be a bad leader and a bad governor not because he will make bad desitions but because he will make none at all.
Further more, a goverment is not a buisness and should not be run like one. This is for the good of the people. ![]()
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Wow! A seer!
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In some ways you're right but in others you are wrong. A business is ruthless. Therefore, it will cut of its weak links and discard its old ones. Therefore, it can be aserted that is a nation was a business than it could discard its people (not just politions, but the average person).
So you see if a nation was a business than it would be like a Nazi Germany, except that it would be succesful. ![]()
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all businesses, small or large, have a primary goal: profit
making a profit comes before all other concerns you can make a case that happy employees are more likely to work efficiently and therefore the business is more likely to be profitable however, there are unknown variables that can affect a business, so that the only way it can remain fiscally healthy is by laying off employees, regardless of their effectiveness businesses are not about compassion or fairness does anyone truly believe that 'what's good for Ford is good for America'? especially in light of the corruption and greed that we now all expect as typical corporate boardroom behavior? 25 years ago a CEO earned 40-50 times what an average worker did, today it's 500+ times yeah, the government should be run like a business... like Enron, maybe?
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The metaphor of employees and constituents was a poor one. Perhaps it would be better to think of these constituents as consumers. Just like voters, consumers hold immense influence over the decisions of executives. Therefore, it is in the best interests of any business to keep its consumers content, whether that be their first priority or not.
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But is this Re-Call truely apart of our American system. i doubt that many soldiers who have died for this country would have wanted to die for a Re-Call.
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un-freaking-believable...
we have truly gone down the rabbit hole now and the world has turned upside down and inside out. life has imitated bad art and made reality a farce. jesse the body was one thing. this is truly truly embarrassing. has america really lost touch of their bearings with reality so much that they think real life and important issues is the same as reality tv. please america wake up from your pop farce day dreaming and look what youve done.
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