Entmoot
 


Go Back   Entmoot > Other Topics > Harry Potter
FAQ Members List Calendar

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 03-16-2003, 12:49 AM   #1
Fili
Enting
 
Fili's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hiding in my head...
Posts: 57
Ron+Hermionie= Exaggerated?

Does anyone besides me think the director exaggerated the Ron+Hermionie love story more than it was supposed to be?
__________________
When the Dark comes rising;
Six shall turn it back;
Three from the circle;
Three from the track;
Wood, bronze, iron; Fire, water stone;
Five shall return and one will go alone.

Iron for the birthday, bronze carried long;
Wood from the burning, stone out of song;
Fire from the candle ring, water out of thaw;
Six signs the Circle and the grail gone before.

Fire on the mountian shall find the Harp of Gold;
Played to wake the Sleepers, oldest of the Old;
Power of the green witch, lost beneath the sea;
All shall find the light at last, silver on the tree.
Fili is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2003, 12:54 AM   #2
Lady of Rohan
Doughy Elf
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Canada
Posts: 1,006
Yah. Chris Columbas really over exaggerated it. For example, at the end of the Chamber of Secrets, when Hermionie runs of to Harry, and gives him a giant hug, and then is about to do the same to Ron, she suddenlt stops, and then shakes his hand. In the books, Rowling was more subtle. But I guess that Columbas had to, to get the point across.
Lady of Rohan is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2003, 12:57 AM   #3
Fili
Enting
 
Fili's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hiding in my head...
Posts: 57
That is the exact place I was thinking of.
__________________
When the Dark comes rising;
Six shall turn it back;
Three from the circle;
Three from the track;
Wood, bronze, iron; Fire, water stone;
Five shall return and one will go alone.

Iron for the birthday, bronze carried long;
Wood from the burning, stone out of song;
Fire from the candle ring, water out of thaw;
Six signs the Circle and the grail gone before.

Fire on the mountian shall find the Harp of Gold;
Played to wake the Sleepers, oldest of the Old;
Power of the green witch, lost beneath the sea;
All shall find the light at last, silver on the tree.
Fili is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2003, 01:32 AM   #4
Lady_of_the_Golden_Wood
The Precious
 
Lady_of_the_Golden_Wood's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Glasgow
Posts: 204
J.K. Rowling only mentioned it in book 4. In book one that doesn't work.
__________________
was holding on
hanging by a thread
clinging to three words you said
but words are meaningless
in your absence.
Lady_of_the_Golden_Wood is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2003, 04:42 PM   #5
eowyngirl14
i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask
 
eowyngirl14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,353
ya... I don't even think anyone is positive Ron and Hermione will hook up! Some one needs to read the books! *looks pointedly at Chris Columbus* Besides at 11, i wasn't worried about who liked who. I was still a tomboy at that age!
__________________
'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn

'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety”
- Benjamin Franklin

arms are made for hugging

avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan
eowyngirl14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2003, 05:04 PM   #6
TheRingIsMine
Sapling
 
TheRingIsMine's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: outer space
Posts: 12
we agree. hermione was much more concerned with books and school and saving the world than Ron in the books. we think that movies don't have to be romantic to be gooda cheese. okay. our rant is over now.
__________________
Gandalf: I liked white better.
Elrond: Many Elves and many mighty Men and many of their friends, had perished in the war
Merry: I'm hungry, what is the time?
~*Peace*~
TheRingIsMine is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2003, 05:57 PM   #7
Estel13
RPG-aholic Psycho
 
Estel13's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Final Fantasy
Posts: 733
Quote:
Originally posted by eowyngirl14
ya... I don't even think anyone is positive Ron and Hermione will hook up! Some one needs to read the books! *looks pointedly at Chris Columbus* Besides at 11, i wasn't worried about who liked who. I was still a tomboy at that age!
I'm still a tomboy, but there is this guy..... If you want details, I'll PM you. Talk to you all tomorrow!
Oh ya, I think R & H will get together in Book 5.
__________________
Estel13 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2003, 06:58 PM   #8
Fili
Enting
 
Fili's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hiding in my head...
Posts: 57
probably, but that was book 2.
__________________
When the Dark comes rising;
Six shall turn it back;
Three from the circle;
Three from the track;
Wood, bronze, iron; Fire, water stone;
Five shall return and one will go alone.

Iron for the birthday, bronze carried long;
Wood from the burning, stone out of song;
Fire from the candle ring, water out of thaw;
Six signs the Circle and the grail gone before.

Fire on the mountian shall find the Harp of Gold;
Played to wake the Sleepers, oldest of the Old;
Power of the green witch, lost beneath the sea;
All shall find the light at last, silver on the tree.
Fili is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2003, 06:59 PM   #9
eowyngirl14
i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask
 
eowyngirl14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,353
Quote:
Originally posted by Estel13
I'm still a tomboy, but there is this guy..... If you want details, I'll PM you. Talk to you all tomorrow!
Oh ya, I think R & H will get together in Book 5.
ofcoarse i want details! which H, Harry or Hermione??

(90 second rule is really startin to get at me!)
__________________
'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn

'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety”
- Benjamin Franklin

arms are made for hugging

avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan
eowyngirl14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2003, 07:14 PM   #10
eowyngirl14
i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask
 
eowyngirl14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,353
Quote:
Originally posted by Fili
probably, but that was book 2.
pardon my idiecy- but what was book 2?
__________________
'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn

'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety”
- Benjamin Franklin

arms are made for hugging

avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan
eowyngirl14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-16-2003, 10:37 PM   #11
Sailor Saiya-Elf
Hobbit
 
Sailor Saiya-Elf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: the dark corners of the computer lab.
Posts: 18
Quote:
Originally posted by Lady of Rohan
In the books, Rowling was more subtle. But I guess that Columbas had to, to get the point across.
It could have something to do with the movies being aimed at a slightly different audiece than the books. To read the books, you have to be able to read, but to watch a movie you don't. It could be cattering for that younger audience.

Or, alternatly it could be catering for the Americans. (no offence intended, but they have made a few changes for their lack of subtlty)
__________________
Never underestimate Tolkien fans bearing impliments of destruction.
Sailor Saiya-Elf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2003, 09:11 PM   #12
Finmandos12
Elven Warrior
 
Finmandos12's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Tampa
Posts: 327
Quote:
It could have something to do with the movies being aimed at a slightly different audiece than the books.
How could you aim lower than the book's audience .

Quote:
Or, alternatly it could be catering for the Americans.
Or, alternately, it could be catering for people like you.
__________________
The light shines in the darkness, but the darkness has not understood it.
Finmandos12 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2003, 09:16 PM   #13
Fili
Enting
 
Fili's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hiding in my head...
Posts: 57
Quote:
Originally posted by eowyngirl14
pardon my idiecy- but what was book 2?
The movie, sorry I didnt make myself more clear.
__________________
When the Dark comes rising;
Six shall turn it back;
Three from the circle;
Three from the track;
Wood, bronze, iron; Fire, water stone;
Five shall return and one will go alone.

Iron for the birthday, bronze carried long;
Wood from the burning, stone out of song;
Fire from the candle ring, water out of thaw;
Six signs the Circle and the grail gone before.

Fire on the mountian shall find the Harp of Gold;
Played to wake the Sleepers, oldest of the Old;
Power of the green witch, lost beneath the sea;
All shall find the light at last, silver on the tree.
Fili is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-17-2003, 10:36 PM   #14
Sailor Saiya-Elf
Hobbit
 
Sailor Saiya-Elf's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: the dark corners of the computer lab.
Posts: 18
Quote:
Originally posted by Finmandos12
How could you aim lower than the book's audience .

You have to be able to read to read the books, you just have to be able to look at a screen to watch the movies.

Or, alternately, it could be catering for people like you.
I didn't mean any offence to Americans out there, but usually lot of things in movies/books are changed for the American audiece. If you don't believe me look up a list of changes in the different versions of the HP books.
__________________
Never underestimate Tolkien fans bearing impliments of destruction.
Sailor Saiya-Elf is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2003, 05:35 PM   #15
eowyngirl14
i don't know what i am talking about either, so don't ask
 
eowyngirl14's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 1,353
Quote:
Originally posted by Sailor Saiya-Elf
I didn't mean any offence to Americans out there, but usually lot of things in movies/books are changed for the American audiece. If you don't believe me look up a list of changes in the different versions of the HP books.
accualy I am having a hard time believing you. where might I look up such a list?? Did the americans ever ask for it to be changed, or were the english just 'trying to do us a favor'??
__________________
'The coming of dawn is ever the hope to the heart of men' -Aragorn

'Then I will die as one of them' -Aragorn TTT movie

“They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little safety deserve neither liberty nor safety”
- Benjamin Franklin

arms are made for hugging

avatar from the avatar shop! made by Eowyn, Lady of Rohan
eowyngirl14 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-18-2003, 08:58 PM   #16
Fili
Enting
 
Fili's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hiding in my head...
Posts: 57
Most Americans are as patriotic to the book as anybody else...... or I speak for everybody I know
__________________
When the Dark comes rising;
Six shall turn it back;
Three from the circle;
Three from the track;
Wood, bronze, iron; Fire, water stone;
Five shall return and one will go alone.

Iron for the birthday, bronze carried long;
Wood from the burning, stone out of song;
Fire from the candle ring, water out of thaw;
Six signs the Circle and the grail gone before.

Fire on the mountian shall find the Harp of Gold;
Played to wake the Sleepers, oldest of the Old;
Power of the green witch, lost beneath the sea;
All shall find the light at last, silver on the tree.
Fili is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 02:08 AM   #17
b4ugo
Sapling
 
b4ugo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Well, at the mo, I'm in front of the computer, does that help? There's a hill nearby and a big tree too!
Posts: 8
Quote:
Originally posted by eowyngirl14
accualy I am having a hard time believing you. where might I look up such a list?? Did the americans ever ask for it to be changed, or were the english just 'trying to do us a favor'??
Actually, I have to agree with Sailor Saiya-Elf, lots of things are Hollywood-ized to make more sense for you Americans, no offense intended, you are a whole different audience. One example is how they changed "Philosopher's Stone" to "Sorceror's Stone" due to the fact that most American's didn't know what a philosopher actually was.

But I have to say that the second movie seemed a bit too gory for the 8 yr old readers out there. I don't agree with how they portrayed the fight with blood and all that cos the main audience are actually little kids, and I know I wouldn't want my little sister (9) to see that kind of violence.

Plus, you shouldn't need a list for the changes from book to movie, if you've actually read the book.
b4ugo is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-19-2003, 07:31 AM   #18
FrodoFriend
Halfwitted
 
FrodoFriend's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2001
Location: Eryn Vorn
Posts: 1,659
It was definitely more exaggerated than in the books, but I don't think it's necessarily bad, just ... different. I like Rowling's style more, but the way they did it in the movie was alright too.
__________________
Fingolfin lives! ... in my finger!

The Crossroads of Arda - Warning. Halfwit content. Not appropriate for people with IQ of over 18.

The Fellowship of the Message Board

Nyáréonié - The Tale of Tears
FrodoFriend is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-20-2003, 02:26 AM   #19
Lief Erikson
Elf Lord
 
Lief Erikson's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2000
Location: Fountain Valley, CA
Posts: 6,343
Quote:
Originally posted by b4ugo
Actually, I have to agree with Sailor Saiya-Elf, lots of things are Hollywood-ized to make more sense for you Americans, no offense intended, you are a whole different audience. One example is how they changed "Philosopher's Stone" to "Sorceror's Stone" due to the fact that most American's didn't know what a philosopher actually was.
Perhaps it's partly difference in culture, though I think that that is a pretty innaccurate generalization. Harry Potter is wildly popular in America as it is, without any changes being made in it. If you can see numerous changes between the books of Harry Potter and the books of it that are sold in England, then it's obvious that the whole thing has been alterred to be made understandable to American stereotypes. However if you can't back up the statement that the whole project has been alterred for Americans, I think your argument doesn't hold much water. So do you think that the books also have been changed much for Americans?

Quote:
But I have to say that the second movie seemed a bit too gory for the 8 yr old readers out there. I don't agree with how they portrayed the fight with blood and all that cos the main audience are actually little kids, and I know I wouldn't want my little sister (9) to see that kind of violence.
Is it worse than movie 1? I haven't seen the movie that was made of book 2 yet, but if they're violent already then that's too bad. They're going to be a LOT worse by the time book 4 rolls around. That'll be very nasty for younger watchers.
Lief Erikson is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 03-23-2003, 02:03 AM   #20
Fili
Enting
 
Fili's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Hiding in my head...
Posts: 57
Quote:
Originally posted by b4ugo
Actually, I have to agree with Sailor Saiya-Elf, lots of things are Hollywood-ized to make more sense for you Americans, no offense intended, you are a whole different audience. One example is how they changed "Philosopher's Stone" to "Sorceror's Stone" due to the fact that most American's didn't know what a philosopher actually was.
Hmmmmmmmm...... Me, being American disagree because the people who make the movie never ask the people

Does that mean that the movie people are copmplete cheapskates?
__________________
When the Dark comes rising;
Six shall turn it back;
Three from the circle;
Three from the track;
Wood, bronze, iron; Fire, water stone;
Five shall return and one will go alone.

Iron for the birthday, bronze carried long;
Wood from the burning, stone out of song;
Fire from the candle ring, water out of thaw;
Six signs the Circle and the grail gone before.

Fire on the mountian shall find the Harp of Gold;
Played to wake the Sleepers, oldest of the Old;
Power of the green witch, lost beneath the sea;
All shall find the light at last, silver on the tree.
Fili is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply



Posting Rules
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may post attachments
You may edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 04:03 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.1
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
(c) 1997-2019, The Tolkien Trail